Anthony Lee

[Alford Bailey 13,233]

Just because the dude was 6'9" and looking to transfer all of the sudden everyone thought this guy was a stud. I said at the time this kid wasnt what we needed dont sweat it. Same goes for the 7 foot kid Matta got (Trevor???). No game changers by any means. As someone else pointed out Giddens is the one we really missed on.

[TomPritchard25 526]

I keep watching temple p, they're pretty tough this year, I don't think he would've gotten playing time there IMHO

[FKfootball 1,046]

Nobody will ever be able to sell Thad Matta to me. If we had to hire a new HC, hes about #20 on my list. He wins because he can recruit skilled players. And it works at a major football school. At Indiana, we are a traditional basketball power and should be winning even more than Matta does at OSU.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Nobody will ever be able to sell Thad Matta to me. If we had to hire a new HC, hes about #20 on my list. He wins because he can recruit skilled players. And it works at a major football school. At Indiana, we are a traditional basketball power and should be winning even more than Matta does at OSU.

How? Matta wins and competes with the big boys every year. Crean recruits skilled players and doesn't achieve the same level of success. Matta is no Coach K, but he's a very good coach. How does the fact that they are a major football school help recruiting more than being a major basketball school like Indiana? As a traditional basketball school, we should theoretically be recruiting better, but it will fall to coaching whether we're winning or not. 

[chitown hoosier 743]

Honestly, I think "traditional" is what hurts IU recruiting more than anything. I'm all for traditional and I appreciate how IU has held steadfast in their jerseys with no names but times are changing. A simple jump from adidas to Nike can benefit our recruiting. Now I'm not saying we should become UK but a lot of these kids these days don't care about "tradition" anymore. They weren't even born during the glory days so to state simply IU should be recruiting better because of our tradition is moot.

[FKfootball 1,046]

Honestly, I think "traditional" is what hurts IU recruiting more than anything. I'm all for traditional and I appreciate how IU has held steadfast in their jerseys with no names but times are changing. A simple jump from adidas to Nike can benefit our recruiting. Now I'm not saying we should become UK but a lot of these kids these days don't care about "tradition" anymore. They weren't even born during the glory days so to state simply IU should be recruiting better because of our tradition is moot.

I like our uniforms just fine. If they wanna wear Nike shoes, than we can still sign with Nike. Jordan would be cool too.

[VO5 8,340]

I like our uniforms just fine. If they wanna wear Nike shoes, than we can still sign with Nike. Jordan would be cool too.

not trying to take a stab at you at all, but yes, you might like the traditional jerseys. However, kids these days want what is flashy. Jerseys, shoes, etc. the traditional aspect appeals to the fans 10x more than it does these college recruits who want what is "cool" at the time. An alternate jersey here and there would be awesome to me and could possibly help a little bit with recruits

[FKfootball 1,046]

I wish they would wear a different jersey on the road for sure.

[The Baby Bull 280]

Wish we could get WWW on our bench

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

Wish we could get WWW on our bench

 

We had him last year.

 

Will Sheehey that is.....

 

He has gone worldwide and is playing overseas----World Wide Will!  :biggrin:
 

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

Nobody will ever be able to sell Thad Matta to me. If we had to hire a new HC, hes about #20 on my list. He wins because he can recruit skilled players. And it works at a major football school. At Indiana, we are a traditional basketball power and should be winning even more than Matta does at OSU.

 

Agree.
 

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

Wish we could get WWW on our bench

 

I don't want WWW anywhere near the IU program.  EVER.

[FKfootball 1,046]

I don't want WWW anywhere near the IU program. EVER.

I second this. I prefer "The Butler way" over "The Kentucky way."

[TomPritchard25 526]

Www?

[schoosier 3,745]

How? Matta wins and competes with the big boys every year. Crean recruits skilled players and doesn't achieve the same level of success. Matta is no Coach K, but he's a very good coach. How does the fact that they are a major football school help recruiting more than being a major basketball school like Indiana? As a traditional basketball school, we should theoretically be recruiting better, but it will fall to coaching whether we're winning or not.

We are agreeing more and more, which is a good thing. It makes me think maybe Indiana basketball may be lining up to make a run this year. I think your comments are spot on and applaud where you feel you not only need to recruit at a high level but coach also. To think Matta is anything but a great coach is short sighted at best. Yes, he is a great recruiter. There's no gray areas; it takes a combo of both both regardless of how one feels personally. Good post.

[schoosier 3,745]

Yes, but Thad's were one and done, not developed, either. 1 was legitimate (in my opinion) in Oden, but Mullins and Koufos rode his coat tails into 1 and done. Did anyone think Sullenger wasn't going to be a stud coming into college?
Between Kentucky, OSU and Indiana, the only developed lottery pick was Oladipo, in the last 4-5 seasons.

If you're recruiting you need two things Matta has in spades; championships and getting big men to the next level with fat paydays. Developing big men in today's college basketball is just that; one and done. Matta was in the forefront of this. It's just the lay of the landscape and a damn shame for Vonleh and Indiana basketball. Could you imagine what a sophmore Noah brings to thks team combined with a sophmore Fisher. It really sucks for Crean as he recruited outstanding thinking a young Vonleh would stay another year combined with a soph Fisher. Our inside issues ar then non existant and you have the great, young back court in addition. Bad luck in a way but you still have to coach and Crean still has talent if he can get Hanner to play up to his potential. Poor Hanner is probably the biggest let down of any recruit I can remember, and his work ethic and extra curricular failures aren't Crean's fault. You have to want to be great, and practicing comes from within. I still have faith though.

[bleedhoosier 3,627]

Yea we can hold on to tradition and still give way to a new edge to keep up. I too feel like we are losing an edge in recruiting by trying to hold on to tradition a little too much. Let's just get a black and crimson jersey or something.

[ALASKA HOOSIER 11,357]

what the heck is a "www"?

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

what the heck is a "www"?

 

World Wide Wes, a very important 'recruiter' for the cayuts.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

We are agreeing more and more, which is a good thing. It makes me think maybe Indiana basketball may be lining up to make a run this year. I think your comments are spot on and applaud where you feel you not only need to recruit at a high level but coach also. To think Matta is anything but a great coach is short sighted at best. Yes, he is a great recruiter. There's no gray areas; it takes a combo of both both regardless of how one feels personally. Good post.

. yeah I'm all for supporting Crean, but I won't try to discredit a much better coach. Crean has proven he can recruit at a high level like Matta. Crean has had some bad luck and misses resulting in roster issues. Regardless, given the same roster, Matta wins more games than Crean.

Definitely agree, IU seems to be gearing up for a run in feb and March. These kids, and coach, are making adjustments and learning from every game.