College Bball Thread

[Uspshoosier 45,893]

5 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Committee can't take it that seriously. 35th? I'm sure would push something like that aside. 

Sure they can.  They will view them as a team that is in the mix for a bid.   Penn St has some really close losses to some good teams.  Plus their overall resume is solid just need some wins.   Efficiency numbers like penn st as well and their SOS is top 10.    Any win vs penn st will be viewed as it should be.  A resume builder.   Not all wins have to be signature wins.  Wins against these type of teams are needed for  all teams 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,694]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Sure they can.  They will view them as a team that is in the mix for a bid.   Penn St has some really close losses to some good teams.  Plus their overall resume is solid just need some wins.   Efficiency numbers like penn st as well and their SOS is top 10.    Any win vs penn st will be viewed as it should be.  A resume builder.   Not all wins have to be signature wins.  Wins against these type of teams are needed for  all teams 

This is something that needs to go away real quick. "Well they have close losses." Cool. They are still 6-7(4-6). It's okay to just say, they aren't good. What are close losses? Losses. Dumbest narrative ever made in sports. The justifying of losses. "They were close losses." They only lost to ranked teams." Guess what? They still lost. No logical human being can believe Penn State is a good win. This is when ratings and analytics get thrown out the window. 

[Uspshoosier 45,893]

2 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

This is something that needs to go away real quick. "Well they have close losses." Cool. They are still 6-7(4-6). It's okay to just say, they aren't good. What are close losses? Losses. Dumbest narrative ever made in sports. The justifying of losses. "They were close losses." They only lost to ranked teams." Guess what? They still lost. No logical human being can believe Penn State is a good win. This is when ratings and analytics get thrown out the window. 

It’s a good win 

[Uspshoosier 45,893]

Virginia just lost to Virginia Tech.   Would of loved to watch it.   Anyone else watch it?  Last I checked it was a close game but looks like they lost by 14 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,694]

5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

It’s a good win 

Their record says they aren't good. So no. 

Signed, logical human beings. 

[Uspshoosier 45,893]

4 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Their record says they aren't good. So no. 

Signed, logical human beings. 

Never change.   Did you copy and paste this from last year?

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,694]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Never change.   Did you copy and paste this from last year?

And it'll never change. Your record says who you are. 

[TheWatShot 14,067]

It's crazy how Purdue just hangs around. They've given up 6 threes, haven't hit any, and somehow they're only down by five after being down 14 earlier. 

[Uspshoosier 45,893]

4 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

And it'll never change. Your record says who you are. 

and teams getting credit for beating teams like penn St that have good numbers but a bad record will never change.  Wins like that will always be viewed by the committee, most college basketball analysts and the whole college basketball community as good resume building wins.  Penn St is top 35 in Ken Pom as well 

on this topic you can hate it all you want but nothing is going to change.   Next Penn St game I watch I going to bet espn, BTN or fox show me a graphic of their numbers and close losses and talk about them being better then their record.   Nothing is going to change that 

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,241]

And it'll never change. Your record says who you are. 

I'll take USPS's record over yours any day

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[TheWatShot 14,067]

Purdue went the entire first half without hitting a 3 and they're only down 5 at the break. Crazy. 

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

13 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

It's crazy how Purdue just hangs around. They've given up 6 threes, haven't hit any, and somehow they're only down by five after being down 14 earlier. 

Look how that happened though..  Where was the foul on the 3 FGA?  There wasn't but they got three foul shots for it.  What was the technical foul for that got them 2 points?  It's crazy how some teams just happen to "get the breaks" and "they're in close games" regardless of how they shoot.  Watch the screens and cuts made too.

I was watching Wiscy earlier and every time Davison went into the lane on offense he put a shoulder into his defender to get space.  He didn't use his arms but used his shoulder.  There was never a foul called but he could have easily fouled out on those alone.  Iowa and purdoodoo are notorious for moving screens off the ball that go uncalled to get shooters open or curls into the lane.  It's quite maddening for teams to play against but why are they rarely called for those moving screens?

[TheWatShot 14,067]

8 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Look how that happened though..  Where was the foul on the 3 FGA?  There wasn't but they got three foul shots for it.  What was the technical foul for that got them 2 points?  It's crazy how some teams just happen to "get the breaks" and "they're in close games" regardless of how they shoot.  Watch the screens and cuts made too.

I was watching Wiscy earlier and every time Davison went into the lane on offense he put a shoulder into his defender to get space.  He didn't use his arms but used his shoulder.  There was never a foul called but he could have easily fouled out on those alone.  Iowa and purdoodoo are notorious for moving screens off the ball that go uncalled to get shooters open or curls into the lane.  It's quite maddening for teams to play against but why are they rarely called for those moving screens?

Well, Purdue was -2.5 entering the game...

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,694]

33 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

and teams getting credit for beating teams like penn St that have good numbers but a bad record will never change.  Wins like that will always be viewed by the committee, most college basketball analysts and the whole college basketball community as good resume building wins.  Penn St is top 35 in Ken Pom as well 

on this topic you can hate it all you want but nothing is going to change.   Next Penn St game I watch I going to bet espn, BTN or fox show me a graphic of their numbers and close losses and talk about them being better then their record.   Nothing is going to change that 

No one gets credit for being a sub .500 team. 

[TheWatShot 14,067]

Minnesota gonna Minnesota. 

[Uspshoosier 45,893]

11 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

No one gets credit for being a sub .500 team. 

In your world no one gets credit but in the real world they do.     Again I don’t know what to tell you.   I have 0 problem with your take on the matter.  It just doesn’t mean anything regarding tournament selection.   Call the ncaa and Disney and Fox and tell them your stance.  Maybe they listen and change their criteria but I wouldn’t hold my breath.   Until then I will keep judging teams how I have always done and that’s how the committee will do it.   Your arguing a point that’s not going to change.  And if it does, I will change and  plan accordingly 

[Uspshoosier 45,893]

2 good mid major games going on 

Belmont/Murray St

Grand Canyon/New Mexico St 

[NashvilleHoosier 3,719]

2 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Their record says they aren't good. So no. 

Signed, logical human beings. 

I just scrolled through a thread where you advocate for the eye test. Then I scroll through this one where you insist nothing matters in regards to Penn St. but their record. Even though USPS points out their metrics are pretty solid, regardless of record, and they have some really good wins. And a statement like “their record says they aren’t good” pretty much directly contradicts using the eye test. 
 

Can you throw us illogical folk a bone and help us get up to your level of logic? 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,694]

12 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

I just scrolled through a thread where you advocate for the eye test. Then I scroll through this one where you insist nothing matters in regards to Penn St. but their record. Even though USPS points out their metrics are pretty solid, regardless of record, and they have some really good wins. And a statement like “their record says they aren’t good” pretty much directly contradicts using the eye test. 
 

Can you throw us illogical folk a bone and help us get up to your level of logic? 

Their metrics are good enough to lose. 

[NashvilleHoosier 3,719]

12 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Their metrics are good enough to lose. 

So eye test was important yesterday, maybe earlier today. Tonight? Not so much. Got it. Just trying to get on that logical human being level.