College Bball Thread

[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,869]

Illinois 86-75 win over O$U in Columbus.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,438]

Illinois 86-75 win over O$U in Columbus.

Holtmans days are numbered. And if a PG named Thornton becomes available I wouldn’t cry about it.


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[Kentuckysucks 2,265]

12 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Holtmans days are numbered. And if a PG named Thornton becomes available I wouldn’t cry about it.


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Yeah I bet he gets fired right after the season. 

[str8baller 5,315]

Good finish to the Georgia Tech/UNC game

[RaceToTheTop 25,921]

ChickenWarJoe rankings through last Sunday's games (combined rankings of LCS, HoosierJoe, and mine):

1. Purdue (1)    19-2    (73)
2. Houston (1)   18-2  (70)
3. UConn (1)  18-2  (69)
4. UNC    17-3  (66)
5. Arizona 15-5  (59)
6. Tennessee 15-4  (53)
7. Kansas 16-4 (51)
8. Auburn 16-4 (45)
9. Utah St 16-2 (45)
10. Wisconsin 16-4 (41)
11. Illinois 15-5 (32)
12. New Mexico 16-3 (31)
13. Kentucky 15-4 (29)
14. Alabama 14-6 (28)
15. Texas Tech 16-3 (27)
16. Marquette 15-5 (27)
17. Dayton 16-3 (26)
18. Iowa State 16-4 (25)
19. San Diego State 14-4 (23)
20. Baylor 13-5 (22)
21. Ole Miss 17-3 (21)
22. BYU 15-5 (18)
23. South Carolina 17-3 (17)
24. Oklahoma 15-5 (15)
25. Duke 15-4 (15)

Also receiving votes:  Indiana St 17-3 (11), Florida Atlantic 17-4 (10), Creighton 16-5 (10), TCU 15-5 (10), Nevada 16-5 (4), Memphis 15-5 (2), Grand Canyon 18-2 (1), Colorado St 13-5 (1)

[str8baller 5,315]

ESPN just showed the non-con SoS for the Big 12 teams. Pathetic. Only two teams in the top 100. Most were 250 or worse. Greenburg called them out for trying to manipulate the NET rankings

[LIHoosier 26,267]

1 minute ago, str8baller said:

ESPN just showed the non-con SoS for the Big 12 teams. Pathetic. Only two teams in the top 100. Most were 250 or worse. Greenburg called them out for trying to manipulate the NET rankings

Mr NIT calling anyone out for non-con scheduling is rich

[str8baller 5,315]

2 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

Mr NIT calling anyone out for non-con scheduling is rich

I don’t like Greenberg, but he was right on this one. And it was funny to hear him say it aloud. He basically said they schedule a bunch of terrible teams and try and blow them out to pump up their efficiency numbers. And when half your conference is 300+ in SoS it isn’t a bad point. 

[LIHoosier 26,267]

Really, off and def efficiency needs to be capped or take out the best and worst 10% of possessions so that you get a fair idea of a teams strength without having teams keep starters in to pop 100 vs NW Oklahoma Holy Bible School.

[RaceToTheTop 25,921]

IU has one quad two win that could fall to a quad three soon (home game against Ohio State) but also has a quad three win that could shortly move into quad two territory (Maryland).

Good thing about IU's 7 quad one losses is there isn't really any one right now in danger of falling to quad two anytime soon.

[FortWayneHoosier 6,179]

7 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

IU has one quad two win that could fall to a quad three soon (home game against Ohio State) but also has a quad three win that could shortly move into quad two territory (Maryland).

Good thing about IU's 7 quad one losses is there isn't really any one right now in danger of falling to quad two anytime soon.

Theoretical but let’s say we won 1 or 2 of those quad one games, where do you think we are slotted for the tournament at this juncture? 

[JF87 1,487]

49 minutes ago, str8baller said:

Good finish to the Georgia Tech/UNC game

It's always good when UNC loses. 

[Home Jersey 7,715]

22 minutes ago, FortWayneHoosier said:

Theoretical but let’s say we won 1 or 2 of those quad one games, where do you think we are slotted for the tournament at this juncture? 

No idea where they'd be slotted for the tournament, but pretty wild to think for as frustrating as this year has been... a few bounces go differently vs Kansas and Illinois and the narrative is completely different. Shoot, if we handled business like we should've vs RU too, we'd probably be sitting pretty. Coulda woulda shoulda... but didn't. 

I'd personally be a lot more patient this year if I was more optimistic about who we are retaining/bringing in for next year. But they battled through adversity for a win tonight and that's always good to see.

[Uspshoosier 45,880]

24 minutes ago, FortWayneHoosier said:

Theoretical but let’s say we won 1 or 2 of those quad one games, where do you think we are slotted for the tournament at this juncture? 

Depends which games they would have won.  If it was against Purdue and road win against Illinois then they would be sitting in the 7-10 range.   Honestly any 2 wins against the 6Q1a games they played probably result in them being in that range.   If one of the wins was the Nebraska road game which is a Q1b game then probably 10- last 4 in range.    Margin between teams at the bottom of the bubble and teams not projected in is very small this year.   Bottom of the bubble is a mess 

[Rico 3,063]

2 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Holtmans days are numbered. And if a PG named Thornton becomes available I wouldn’t cry about it.


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What is going on in Columbus?  Holtmann getting exposed?

[Stuhoo 81,072]

7 hours ago, Rico said:

What is going on in Columbus?  Holtmann getting exposed?

It’s just not a good fit. He's Archie at IU.

[hoosierbgh 1,264]

8 hours ago, str8baller said:

ESPN just showed the non-con SoS for the Big 12 teams. Pathetic. Only two teams in the top 100. Most were 250 or worse. Greenburg called them out for trying to manipulate the NET rankings

The Big 12 has long been expert at gaming the system. You don't have one really good but not truly great program so thoroughly dominate the league for so long if it is as deep and competitive as the metrics show it to be. 

[JF87 1,487]

9 hours ago, Rico said:

What is going on in Columbus?  Holtmann getting exposed?

I think they are having continuity issues.  Players graduated, two went pro, a couple more transferred.  They brought in Battle from Minnesota who seems to be one-dimensional player.  Holtmann is having a hard time getting them over the hump. 

[Kentuckysucks 2,265]

10 hours ago, Rico said:

What is going on in Columbus?  Holtmann getting exposed?

And despite being a football school they have expectations in Columbus.  Just making the NCAA tournament nearly every year isn't enough.  Matta was fired for 2 average seasons despite multiple FFs, numerous B1G regular season and tournament titles, etc.

[Rico 3,063]

52 minutes ago, JF87 said:

I think they are having continuity issues.  Players graduated, two went pro, a couple more transferred.  They brought in Battle from Minnesota who seems to be one-dimensional player.  Holtmann is having a hard time getting them over the hump. 

Ummm, they weren't good last year.