College Bball Thread

[OliviaPope40 6,458]

Jim Boeheim was suspended nine games for what happened to them and also had some reductions with his number of wins in their scandal. 

[JSHoosier 19,851]

8 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

This is hilarious and so Louisville of them. "But the sex acts weren't worth that much so they shouldn't count to much.."

 

Web view for the Twitter tweet.

 

 

So they went cheap with the hookers they hired?  Shouldn't that be even worse?

[OliviaPope40 6,458]

 

[Brass Cannon 24,271]

Sounds like they will just appeal the suspension. 

[reconmkd 4,337]

Seth Greenburg on ESPN radio: Prostitute U will lose 1 scholarship per year of the probation period. 4 Total.

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,976]

Seth Greenburg on ESPN radio: Prostitute U will lose 1 scholarship per year of the probation period. 4 Total.

That's nothing really.


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[Class of '66 Old Fart 84,081]

If Slick Rick had any moral character he'd fall on his sword and resign but he's proven earlier in his life that he has no moral character.  Same to be said about Boeheim who should have resigned when Syracuse was penalized for academic issues.  I hope there is a major backlash against Pitino and the Louisville AD from the L'ville fans and major $ donors. 

[OliviaPope40 6,458]

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=19644769

[Brass Cannon 24,271]

6 minutes ago, OliviaPope40 said:

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=19644769

Then retire

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,976]

Dirtbag


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[reconmkd 4,337]

http://verbalcommits.com/schools/louisville

Link to a spreadsheet on Prostitute U's scholly situation.

[Str8Hoosiers 2,965]

After reading all of these comments I am fairly surprised... I actually think this is a very Severe penalty and actually overly severe... 

There is no way to ever prove that Pitino had knowledge... I personally believe he had to see/hear something at some point but there is NO way to prove that ever. McGee did it and is being punished by a 10 yr ban.

The fact is they gave approx $10k over a 4 yr span to recruits and/or players.... They should be punished for that, but not the death penalty.... A post-season Ban, Scholarship reductions, Recruiting limitations, and a loss of a **** ton of money from Conference for Tournament appearances.... Not too mention the Bad Press and loss of money that undoubtedly came from that.

Add in a perfectly fair 5 Conference Game suspension for Rick saying the Head Coach should know even if he doesn't sounds like the extent of it...

[Str8Hoosiers 2,965]

The NCAA should not be the Morality police.... the press conference she stated it wasn't about the money but the acts and how dirty it was.... That is out of their scope in my opinion.

The punishment for that part is Bad press, people always being able to hold that against them etc... I don't believe the NCAA has any right to use those specifics in its judgement or its case...

[Brass Cannon 24,271]

1 minute ago, Str8Hoosiers said:

The NCAA should not be the Morality police.... the press conference she stated it wasn't about the money but the acts and how dirty it was.... That is out of their scope in my opinion.

The punishment for that part is Bad press, people always being able to hold that against them etc... I don't believe the NCAA has any right to use those specifics in its judgement or its case...

It seems not about morality. It's about legality  

[Str8Hoosiers 2,965]

7 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

It seems not about morality. It's about legality  

Nothing illegal about having strippers.....

Pay for Sex is different but I am not sure that was ever proven (was it?)

 

And in my opinion Legality is still not in the NCAA's discretion.... If it is a legal issue get police involved, have an investigation done, McGee, the women, the players, anybody who was involved can go to jail or whatever the punishment is for prostitution and/or soliciting prostitution.

The NCAA should only be concerned about the NCAA rules, which money to players/recruits falls into but not what they do with that money... Should there be a difference in the NCAA eyes if money is given to players and they go buy drugs, strippers, cars, or video game systems? NO, they got the money or the gifts... it shouldn't matter in the NCAA eyes what the money was used for.

[Stuhoo 79,798]

11 minutes ago, Str8Hoosiers said:

The NCAA should not be the Morality police.... the press conference she stated it wasn't about the money but the acts and how dirty it was.... That is out of their scope in my opinion.

The punishment for that part is Bad press, people always being able to hold that against them etc... I don't believe the NCAA has any right to use those specifics in its judgement or its case...

 

9 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

It seems not about morality. It's about legality  

 

I'm gonna disagree with both of you! 

1. It is not about legality in the strictest criminal sense. (I mean, yes, prostitution is illegal, but is a barely-punished misdemeanor for the John). More importantly, the NCAA is not a court of law with due process and everything that goes with it. Therefore, the NCAA has absolutely NO criminal legal recourse over its member institutions. 
2. On the other hand, as a private regulatory body that has member institutions which decide to join it, the NCAA is able to make moral and ethical judgments over those institutions, as long as their decisions are contractually supported and do not violate basic protected class parameters. If there are moral and ethical provisions that are contractually supported? They may punish at will in a contractually supported manner. 

 

[mdn82 25,510]

That is where the term Lack of Institutional Control is broad. The players and recruits received extra benefits. The coach involved would not speak to the NCAA. So essentially everything Ms. Powell said at that point is fact. When the NCAA doesn't get cooperation they have always come down notoriously hard when someone can halfway prove something. Yes they shouldn't have spoke on where the benefits went, but this was the right move imo.


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[Str8Hoosiers 2,965]

36 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

That is where the term Lack of Institutional Control is broad. The players and recruits received extra benefits. The coach involved would not speak to the NCAA. So essentially everything Ms. Powell said at that point is fact. When the NCAA doesn't get cooperation they have always come down notoriously hard when someone can halfway prove something. Yes they shouldn't have spoke on where the benefits went, but this was the right move imo.


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Well I hope that means UNC is gonna get nailed... because they are the dictionary example of not cooperating!

[Hardwood83 4,752]

27 minutes ago, Str8Hoosiers said:

Well I hope that means UNC is gonna get nailed... because they are the dictionary example of not cooperating!

Not only that- but whatever you think about providing "services" for players/recruits, academic fraud is worse. It cuts to the absolute reason for the University to even exist. So education is a farce to cover for athletics and vacuuming up $$$ from the Feds & state? UNC should get a vicious beat-down for their complicity in this farce and fighting to cover it up. My suggestion is not the death penalty but a loss of 13 scholarships for 2 seasons forcing them to use all walk-ons. Let them put that JV team they are so proud of on the floor. At least those kids likely go to class. 

[reconmkd 4,337]

Man, just read Eric Crawford's tweet "I think you could title this passage from the final infractions report on Louisville basketball: "Why the NCAA is so ticked off""  All I can say is damn and why are those coaches not in jail for paying for hookers for a 16yo and 2 17 yos!