College Bball Thread

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,559]

Cheating. Not close

No doubt! I agree fully. Both guys pretty loathsome.

[Dalton26 16,892]

Cheating. Not close

Couldn't agree more. Nice to see others that still have some morals too.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

Oh DeAngelo Russell. He posted video conversation of Nick Young discussing cheating on Iggy Azalea. What's worse, cheating or breaking bro code?

Cheating but breaking the bro code could effect Russell's career more. I wouldn't want him anywhere near my locker room.

[X-Hoosier 529]

Are these fair penalties for these schools?

UofL: Loss of 15 scholarships over 5 years. Post season ban for 2016-2017 season. A 15 game suspension for Pitino if they believe he didn't know. A full season ban if they believe he did know. A lifetime ban for McGhee. Vacated wins in years with players involved.

UNC: A loss of all scholarships for 5 years. Vacated wins for games with players involved. 3 years post season ban. 20 game suspension for Roy Williams.

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[Dalton26 16,892]

Are these fair penalties for these schools?

UofL: Loss of 15 scholarships over 5 years. Post season ban for 2016-2017 season. A 15 game suspension for Pitino if they believe he didn't know. A full season ban if they believe he did know. A lifetime ban for McGhee. Vacated wins in years with players involved.

UNC: A loss of all scholarships for 5 years. Vacated wins for games with players involved. 3 years post season ban. 20 game suspension for Roy Williams.

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Not fair at all. The penalties are far too similar for my liking. UNC should get it twice as bad as UofL in my opinion.

[Defenserocks28 393]

10 minutes ago, dalton26 said:

 

 

Not fair at all. The penalties are far too similar for my liking. UNC should get it twice as bad as UofL in my opinion.

I don't know if I'd say those penalties are similar.  Loss of ALL scholarships AND a 3 year postseason ban would kill UNC for close to a decade.  Louisville would be able to bounce back in a year or two.  

[KB0 827]

42 minutes ago, X-Hoosier said:

Are these fair penalties for these schools?

UofL: Loss of 15 scholarships over 5 years. Post season ban for 2016-2017 season. A 15 game suspension for Pitino if they believe he didn't know. A full season ban if they believe he did know. A lifetime ban for McGhee. Vacated wins in years with players involved.

UNC: A loss of all scholarships for 5 years. Vacated wins for games with players involved. 3 years post season ban. 20 game suspension for Roy Williams.

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I don't know if you're being realistic, but those would both be the largest punishments the NCAA has ever handed out for Men's Basketball and by a long shot (I believe). I despise UNC, that punishment is the equivalent of the death penalty SMU received. The NCAA never wants to give out another death penalty.

[Dalton26 16,892]

I don't know if I'd say those penalties are similar.  Loss of ALL scholarships AND a 3 year postseason ban would kill UNC for close to a decade.  Louisville would be able to bounce back in a year or two.  

Completely looked past the all scholarships part. The 3 yr postseason ban should be worse because when it's all said and done UofL will have 2 years. UNC should get nothing short of the death penalty although there's no chance the NCAA would ever do that to them.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

I think a lot of people, myself included, will be disappointed in UNC's penalty. They will defend their program by saying it was a university even though more than half the students were athletes. I'm guessing Ol Roy will get about a 9 game suspension, maybe a loss of a few scholarships for a few years, some vacates wins (non tourney and they'll keep their stained titles), and maybe a few recruiting sanctions.

On similar note, if they actually punished all the cheating programs properly college basketball would be boring for a few years. Not saying cheating is okay, I personally think it gives an uneven playing field, but college basketball and football is so dirty.

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

Are these fair penalties for these schools?

UofL: Loss of 15 scholarships over 5 years. Post season ban for 2016-2017 season. A 15 game suspension for Pitino if they believe he didn't know. A full season ban if they believe he did know. A lifetime ban for McGhee. Vacated wins in years with players involved.

UNC: A loss of all scholarships for 5 years. Vacated wins for games with players involved. 3 years post season ban. 20 game suspension for Roy Williams.

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Since the JB suspension of 9 games was the longest in history, I'd say the suspensions don't make sense. They're also so long that you might as well slap a year or two of show-cause on them. 20 games is too many to be meaningful. If either coach knew then you have to issue a show-cause not a suspension.

Loss of all scholarships is the death penalty. They may be semantically different, but that is turning the whole program off for those years. 3 scholarships a year is likely high for Louisville too unless more comes out. They'll be hit harder with recruiting restrictions not loss of scholarships.

Either way, I do not foresee UNCBB getting hit that hard, especially after this Tourney. Blame will be pushed onto football and they'll decimate an already crappy program.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,251]

Iowa losing 4 senior starters to graduation and a really thin bench this past year.  Now they're losing redshirt freshman Brandon Hutton 6'5" small forward from Chicago who's going to transfer.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

Iowa losing 4 senior starters to graduation and a really thin bench this past year.  Now they're losing redshirt freshman Brandon Hutton 6'5" small forward from Chicago who's going to transfer.

Saw Hammond (?) from Nebrasketball is transferring as well. Has there been this many B1G transfers in the past?

It seems like almost every team is losing a few players to transfer or das boot (Minny, Ill).

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,251]

PUke losing another one.

[biteoftheapple 4,115]

Valentine was voted AP player of the year. He won by 3 votes over Hield.

[Stuhoo 81,539]

20 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

PUke losing another one.

 

Purdue is running out of scholly players.

Including the incoming freshman, they have nine for next year; eight if Swanigan goes.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,559]

Kendall Stephens is a pretty decent player. Lost his mojo though and never fully gained it back.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 85,251]

And Iowa gets bit again: 

IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — Iowa says freshman guard Andrew Fleming has been released from his scholarship so he can transfer to another school.  Fleming averaged 2.2 points and one assist in 11 games last season. Fleming says he is seeking a "better situation" for his college career.

The 6-foot-5 native of Nashville, Tenn., by way of Oak Hill Academy, came to Iowa as part of a five-player freshman class, but he had trouble getting on the floor. Now 40 percent of that group is transferring, with the Wednesday news that Brandon Hutton is leaving, too.

 

[theriverpilot 5,607]

And Iowa gets bit again: 

IOWA CITY, Iowa (AP) — Iowa says freshman guard Andrew Fleming has been released from his scholarship so he can transfer to another school.  Fleming averaged 2.2 points and one assist in 11 games last season. Fleming says he is seeking a "better situation" for his college career.

The 6-foot-5 native of Nashville, Tenn., by way of Oak Hill Academy, came to Iowa as part of a five-player freshman class, but he had trouble getting on the floor. Now 40 percent of that group is transferring, with the Wednesday news that Brandon Hutton is leaving, too.

 

40%? Wow!

[LIHoosier 26,474]

This is so NCAA...

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/15104952/ncaa-errantly-told-south-carolina-gamecocks-were-tourney

They sent texts to congratulate the 68 teams that were put in the NCAA tournament. Instead of sending congratulations to USC, they sent one to the other USC, South Carolina. 

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

Valpo and GW are bringing it. I am going to miss basketball so much.