NBA Thread

[Stuhoo]

21 minutes ago, J34 said:

https://x.com/YeahYeahOkBro/status/1933728431407050895?t=DPzylF5nplvv3cbg0d36ug&s=19

 

So, you're saying that Scott Foster, who was close with and mentioned in the Tim Donaghy investigation, is one of the best referees on the planet?

The pushoff/creating separation and the blatant travel, are not "missed" at my grandsons biddy ball league. The league is a joke, and it has been for years.

Psshh…

Foster and Donaghy were close friends but there apparently was zero evidence that Foster was involved in gambling. Insinuating against or assailing Foster based on zero evidence other than they were friends who talked on the phone? No sir.

And taking a two second clip out of a 48 minute game with three refs, playing it in slow motion, and using it as an example of any ref’s supposed incompetence is pretty weak sauce IMO.

These are world class athletes playing at full speed and in constant contact with each other, and frequently in the sight lines of referees. To say that over the course of any game some calls can be second guessed is completely irrelevant to the quality of refereeing. 

[Stuhoo]

12 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Foster has reffed Game 4 in five straight finals. He's there for a reason. 

Very much hoping you are implying it’s because he’s damn good.

[TheWatShot]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Very much hoping you are implying it’s because he’s damn good.

Why does he always do Game 4? Because a series can only be 3-0 or 2-1 going into it, and his presences improves the likelihood of the series getting a fifth or sixth game. 

 

Keep bending the knee. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Very much hoping you are implying it’s because he’s damn good.

Damn good at what he’s there to do, certainly.

[Brass Cannon]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

lol… it’s not a league narrative to have an Indiana/OKC Finals. If the league could script things, these are the teams that would never sniff a title: Indiana, OKC, Sacramento, Portland, New Orleans, Utah, Milwaukee.

Two of them are in the Finals this year. That’s a business model nightmare.

And btw… those are quite literally the best basketball referees on the planet.

Markets matter less than superstars. They can’t have the MVP superstar losing. 

[Stuhoo]

22 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Why does he always do Game 4? Because a series can only be 3-0 or 2-1 going into it, and his presences improves the likelihood of the series getting a fifth or sixth game. 

 

Keep bending the knee. 

 

20 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Damn good at what he’s there to do, certainly.

 

3 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Markets matter less than superstars. They can’t have the MVP superstar losing. 

Three posters.

Three posts.

Three 100% evidence-free conspiracy theories.

 

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, Stuhoo said:

 

 

Three posters.

Three posts.

Three 100% evidence-free conspiracy theories.

 

Game 4 bad calls is the evidence. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

11 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

 

Three posters.

Three posts.

Three 100% evidence-free conspiracy theories.

 

I don’t care about either team, but why is it a stretch to say that the league that rigs the lottery and has fixed series in the past is influencing the Finals? Anyone who turns on any game can see that certain players receive more favorable whistles than others. Guys like Dort and Caruso have “tough defender” reputations and are allowed to consistently hack and foul. I suppose one can believe Donaghy is the only ref who ever wasn’t 100% above board, but those aren’t exactly great odds 

[Stuhoo]

14 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Game 4 bad calls is the evidence. 

Lol. No. “Refs missed some calls” is not evidence of bad refereeing.

And “I don’t like calls that go against my team!” Is not evidence of bad refereeing. It’s standard human nature. 

It’s as silly as this “extender” nonsense. I just checked the past four years of Foster reffing game fours. 2 games won by the team that was already up- two for the team that was behind at the time. 3 out of 4 games won by the home team.

[Hoosierfan2017]

53 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Psshh…

Foster and Donaghy were close friends but there apparently was zero evidence that Foster was involved in gambling. Insinuating against or assailing Foster based on zero evidence other than they were friends who talked on the phone? No sir.

And taking a two second clip out of a 48 minute game with three refs, playing it in slow motion, and using it as an example of any ref’s supposed incompetence is pretty weak sauce IMO.

These are world class athletes playing at full speed and in constant contact with each other, and frequently in the sight lines of referees. To say that over the course of any game some calls can be second guessed is completely irrelevant to the quality of refereeing. 

 

“Foster is the official who received 134 phone calls from disgraced referee Tim Donaghy between October 2006 and April 2007, as originally reported by FOX News. That was the same period during which Donaghy admitted to betting on NBA games. The report said that Donaghy called Foster more than any other ref and that he didn't call any other official more than 13 times.

Donaghy's calls to Foster took place immediately before and after games Donaghy was officiating 54 times.”

https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/scott-foster-recipient-of-134-tim-donaghy-phone-calls-refereeing-celtics-heat-game-3/
 

Like, cmon.. You don’t have to have a smoking gun to know things don’t add up. Donaghy wasn’t calling him immediately before and/or after games to wish him good look or tell him nice officiating. 

[J34]

56 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Psshh…

Foster and Donaghy were close friends but there apparently was zero evidence that Foster was involved in gambling. Insinuating against or assailing Foster based on zero evidence other than they were friends who talked on the phone? No sir.

And taking a two second clip out of a 48 minute game with three refs, playing it in slow motion, and using it as an example of any ref’s supposed incompetence is pretty weak sauce IMO.

These are world class athletes playing at full speed and in constant contact with each other, and frequently in the sight lines of referees. To say that over the course of any game some calls can be second guessed is completely irrelevant to the quality of refereeing. 

You sure are picking an odd hill to die on.

[J34]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Psshh…

Foster and Donaghy were close friends but there apparently was zero evidence that Foster was involved in gambling. Insinuating against or assailing Foster based on zero evidence other than they were friends who talked on the phone? No sir.

And taking a two second clip out of a 48 minute game with three refs, playing it in slow motion, and using it as an example of any ref’s supposed incompetence is pretty weak sauce IMO.

These are world class athletes playing at full speed and in constant contact with each other, and frequently in the sight lines of referees. To say that over the course of any game some calls can be second guessed is completely irrelevant to the quality of refereeing. 

You are completely contradicting yourself. The best referee in the world doesn't just miss 2 blatant infractions right in front of him. Unless he's intentionally swallowing his whistle. 

[Stuhoo]

6 minutes ago, J34 said:

You sure are picking an odd hill to die on.

That two guys that were friends talked on the phone?

I’m trying really hard not to be snarky here, but it’s getting difficult.

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, J34 said:

You are completely contradicting yourself. The best referee in the world doesn't just miss 2 blatant infractions right in front of him. Unless he's intentionally swallowing his whistle. 

Let me guess; on an OKC fan board there was obviously biased anti-OKC refereeing in the games the Pacers won.

Amirite?

[Stuhoo]

I read about the conspiracy to help the Knicks, who haven’t won a championship in a zillion seasons here… until Halliburton started outplaying Brunson and Brunson got in major foul trouble. What happened to that conspiracy?

Play great team defense and hit shots and all these conspiracies and blame the refs stuff disappears.

 

[Hoosierfan2017]

17 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

That two guys that were friends talked on the phone?

I’m trying really hard not to be snarky here, but it’s getting difficult.

That an NBA Ref who went to federal prison for betting on games he officiated called another NBA ref 121 more times during a six-month period (during which he was fixing games) than he did any other referee. 

[moyemayhem]

Scott Foster is not a good referee.

Last night was the worst officiated game of the series.

And yet, it’s still not why the Pacers lost the game.

They were up 4 with 3 minutes left and proceeded to go 0-5 from the field and 1-4 from the line with a turnover thrown in.  The Pacers got away from their flow offense and let the game slip away.  That’s why they lost.

 

[Stuhoo]

27 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

That an NBA Ref who went to federal prison for betting on games he officiated called another NBA ref 121 more times during a six-month period (during which he was fixing games) than he did any other referee. 

You do realize that the Department of Justice/FBI had all the bad guys’ bank records and saw how they paid Donaghy? And that the NBA fully cooperated and nuked Donaghy?

Yet the conspiracy theory is that both the FBI/DOJ and the NBA were conspiring to take out one crooked young NBA ref but not a different young, crooked NBA ref. And all because Foster and Donaghy were friends that talked a bunch.

Oh yeah, and the fix is in on behalf of the Knicks, who haven’t won a title since the 1970’s.

[Brass Cannon]

On 6/14/2025 at 4:31 PM, Stuhoo said:

You do realize that the Department of Justice/FBI had all the bad guys’ bank records and saw how they paid Donaghy? And that the NBA fully cooperated and nuked Donaghy?

Yet the conspiracy theory is that both the FBI/DOJ and the NBA were conspiring to take out one crooked young NBA ref but not a different young, crooked NBA ref. And all because Foster and Donaghy were friends that talked a bunch.

Oh yeah, and the fix is in on behalf of the Knicks, who haven’t won a title since the 1970’s.

Markets don’t matter. Besides the refs can only help them so much.  
 

Lebron went to Cleveland. And people nationwide starting wearing Cavs jerseys.  Manufacturing stars anywhere is more important than getting bigger market teams success.

 

Especially when somehow the Lakers can just keep trading bags of candy wrappers for star players. 

[Brass Cannon]

On 6/14/2025 at 4:24 PM, moyemayhem said:

Scott Foster is not a good referee.

Last night was the worst officiated game of the series.

And yet, it’s still not why the Pacers lost the game.

They were up 4 with 3 minutes left and proceeded to go 0-5 from the field and 1-4 from the line with a turnover thrown in.  The Pacers got away from their flow offense and let the game slip away.  That’s why they lost.

 

The thunder basically fouled them the whole fourth quarter dating the refs to call them for it.  The refs declined the opportunity. 
 

The refs seemed to focus on incidental contact during shots while ignoring blatant fouls not during the act of shooting. 
 

The Pacers didn’t seem to adjust to this. But they were never going to get the SGA treatment.