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14 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Honestly I don’t think LeBron, Kahwi, and George make the Lakers good enough to beat Golden State.

I don’t like LeBron and Simmons together at all so Philly is out imo.

I like Kawhi and LeBron but George is way overrated imo. Need a different third to form a big three.

Idk but I want someone that can beat Golden State.


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I would donate to a "beat Golden State" GoFundMe lol. It doesn't even have to be LeBron, just someone beat them.

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Former blue chipper Brandon McCoy went undrafted and signed a FA deal with the Bucks.

As much as anything, it was reflective of the NBA’s shift away from the traditional center. McCoy showed no signs of a perimeter game and his defense in space was seen as highly questionable. That’s enough to leave you undrafted today. Remember, this is a guy who was borderline Top 10 nationally in his class just one year ago.

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On 6/22/2018 at 2:34 PM, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Honestly I don’t think LeBron, Kahwi, and George make the Lakers good enough to beat Golden State.

I don’t like LeBron and Simmons together at all so Philly is out imo.

I like Kawhi and LeBron but George is way overrated imo. Need a different third to form a big three.

Idk but I want someone that can beat Golden State.


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George is still an elite defender. You could bring two guys out of the stands and that would still damn near be the best defensive team in the league.

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5 hours ago, VeevlandBrowns said:

Former blue chipper Brandon McCoy went undrafted and signed a FA deal with the Bucks.

As much as anything, it was reflective of the NBA’s shift away from the traditional center. McCoy showed no signs of a perimeter game and his defense in space was seen as highly questionable. That’s enough to leave you undrafted today. Remember, this is a guy who was borderline Top 10 nationally in his class just one year ago.

Averaged a double double as a freshman. But like you said, the NBA has no place for a big center with heavy feet and no outside shot. He could go overseas and be a monster though. Good money and be treated like a king. He'll be fine.

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6 hours ago, VeevlandBrowns said:

Former blue chipper Brandon McCoy went undrafted and signed a FA deal with the Bucks.

As much as anything, it was reflective of the NBA’s shift away from the traditional center. McCoy showed no signs of a perimeter game and his defense in space was seen as highly questionable. That’s enough to leave you undrafted today. Remember, this is a guy who was borderline Top 10 nationally in his class just one year ago.

Man look at Trevon Duval. #1 PG coming out of high school, projected lottery pick -  just went undrafted 1 year later. A broken jumper and terrible decision maker and couldn't go back to Duke because he got recruited over.

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Man look at Trevon Duval. #1 PG coming out of high school, projected lottery pick -  just went undrafted 1 year later. A broken jumper and terrible decision maker and couldn't go back to Duke because he got recruited over.

Crazy I agree. I actually thought he was decent at Duke but just too inconsistent for a point guard. His athleticism and passing should’ve warranted a second round pick though imo


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14 hours ago, IUfan_Charlie said:

Man look at Trevon Duval. #1 PG coming out of high school, projected lottery pick -  just went undrafted 1 year later. A broken jumper and terrible decision maker and couldn't go back to Duke because he got recruited over.

Prime example of how the one and done rule really hurts these kids. It also has diluted the NBA product over the years. 

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12 minutes ago, IUfan_Charlie said:

PG on IG talking like he wasn't the one that wanted out of Indy and tanked his value on purpose. Dude is a bitter ex. 

He's not wrong though. Professional sports teams have no loyalty. They'll cut players loose in the blink of an eye. I don't blame  guys for doing what they think is best for themselves.

 

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4 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

He's not wrong though. Professional sports teams have no loyalty. They'll cut players loose in the blink of an eye. I don't blame  guys for doing what they think is best for themselves.

 

They cut people loose but how often do they sabotage the players chances at a new contract

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14 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

He tried to

If you're looking at it from management's position, then yes. But he didn't owe the Pacers any loyalty. It wasn't his responsibility to help them get a good return for him.  He wanted out, he wanted to control where he went, and he didn't want a team to deplete their roster to acquire him. He did what was best for him. The Pacers didn't have to trade him. They weren't required to accept a "bad" trade package. They made the decision to do so. 

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2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

If you're looking at it from management's position, then yes. But he didn't owe the Pacers any loyalty. It wasn't his responsibility to help them get a good return for him.  He wanted out, he wanted to control where he went, and he didn't want a team to deplete their roster to acquire him. He did what was best for him. The Pacers didn't have to trade him. They weren't required to accept a "bad" trade package. They made the decision to do so. 

 You honestly think it was OK for him to tank his value that there was nothing wrong with that

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If you're looking at it from management's position, then yes. But he didn't owe the Pacers any loyalty. It wasn't his responsibility to help them get a good return for him.  He wanted out, he wanted to control where he went, and he didn't want a team to deplete their roster to acquire him. He did what was best for him. The Pacers didn't have to trade him. They weren't required to accept a "bad" trade package. They made the decision to do so. 

Why wouldn’t they trade him if he wasn’t staying? Him telling them he wasn’t resigning forced their hand. If the Pacers were the Lakers they could ride it out until FA. As a small market club they aren’t in a position to let assets go out the door knowingly. Especially when they weren’t close to competing.

 

Edit: I don’t disagree either about him not owing them anything. Loyalty is no longer a thing, so I don’t think that’s on him.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

 You honestly think it was OK for him to tank his value that there was nothing wrong with that

Yes I do. From an objective standpoint, why should he have made things easier on the Pacers? If, say, three years ago NO had called up and said "we'll give you Anthony Davis for Paul George", they wouldn't have hesitated. So why shouldn't George be the same way?

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15 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

Why wouldn’t they trade him if he wasn’t staying? Him telling them he wasn’t resigning forced their hand. If the Pacers were the Lakers they could ride it out until FA. As a small market club they aren’t in a position to let assets go out the door knowingly. Especially when they weren’t close to competing.

 

 

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I'm not saying they should have kept him, just that it was an option if his value was lower than what they were willing to trade him for. They didn't have to accept a bad trade.

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