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[HinnyHoosier 4,853]

11 hours ago, IUfan_Charlie said:

I just don’t think these first round picks are all that valuable to us right now. We already have good young role players. We need a star and the odds of getting a star in the mid to late first are just not there. Siakam has his flaws, but he would help us for sure. And the Pacers have the shooting to spread the floor for him. There just isn’t going to be a better player available for us. 

He's a guy who's game could really open up with Haliburton

[Hovadipo 55,457]

11 hours ago, IUfan_Charlie said:

I just don’t think these first round picks are all that valuable to us right now. We already have good young role players. We need a star and the odds of getting a star in the mid to late first are just not there. Siakam has his flaws, but he would help us for sure. And the Pacers have the shooting to spread the floor for him. There just isn’t going to be a better player available for us. 

Fair enough. Definitely agree about the picks, we're past relying on the draft for big-minutes talent. Maxing him just gives me a bit of pause. Nothing more than a gut feeling.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,660]

1 hour ago, Hovadipo said:

Fair enough. Definitely agree about the picks, we're past relying on the draft for big-minutes talent. Maxing him just gives me a bit of pause. Nothing more than a gut feeling.

Siakims isn't anywhere near worth a max. 15-20 maybe but he isn't that kind of guy. Giving him a max is saying he's equal to some of the absolute in the league, and he's not close to there.

[Hovadipo 55,457]

38 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Siakims isn't anywhere near worth a max. 15-20 maybe but he isn't that kind of guy. Giving him a max is saying he's equal to some of the absolute in the league, and he's not close to there.

He is getting the max though. I'm still working through how I feel about it, but I'm working under the assumption that if we trade 3 1sts and Buddy/Bruce for him, he'll be signing that 5/245 (or whatever it is) this summer and we go from there.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,660]

10 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

He is getting the max though. I'm still working through how I feel about it, but I'm working under the assumption that if we trade 3 1sts and Buddy/Bruce for him, he'll be signing that 5/245 (or whatever it is) this summer and we go from there.

Signing him to a max would be an insanely stupid move. If there is a possibility of a sign and trade.. better move. Actually keeping him.. dumb.

[reconmkd 4,348]

Pacers finalizing a trade for Siakim: Brown/Nwora and 3 1st rounds. 

 

[Demo 19,733]

Official. I like it assuming you’ve got some sort of wink/nod agreement that you can extend. I don’t like it as much if you’re just assuming that playing with Hali can convince him. 

[Scotty R 2,127]

1 hour ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Signing him to a max would be an insanely stupid move. If there is a possibility of a sign and trade.. better move. Actually keeping him.. dumb.

15 mil will get you a bench player in the NBA, I think Buddy His makes around 20 mil a year. For ann all star like Siakim you will have to go a lot higher

[Hovadipo 55,457]

Still not excited about the max, but I *am* excited to see him and Tyrese play together. Now we wait for our guy to get healthy.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,660]

15 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

15 mil will get you a bench player in the NBA, I think Buddy His makes around 20 mil a year. For ann all star like Siakim you will have to go a lot higher

Buddy isn't worth his contract either sooo..

[Demo 19,733]

Fairly deep dive into the Siakem deal and fit between a Raptors guy and the great Caitlin Cooper. Completely worth about 45 mins of your time. 

[KingPG21 6,583]

Really like this move for the Pacers. Siakim is way more impactful, and better, than Brown. This draft is trash. And they don't gut their depth

[KingPG21 6,583]

6 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Siakims isn't anywhere near worth a max. 15-20 maybe but he isn't that kind of guy. Giving him a max is saying he's equal to some of the absolute in the league, and he's not close to there.

This is a horribly out of touch take. 15-20 million is a joke for Siakim. Its so weird that you whine and complain about the NBA not liking skilled players. But you think Siakim should only get 15-20 million in the current league. 

[Scotty R 2,127]

5 hours ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Buddy isn't worth his contract either sooo..

Just stating this is the market for players in the NBA and you figures aren't even close

[Hovadipo 55,457]

Saw a stat tonight from the Lakers game that Lebron has played against 35% of players in the history of the NBA. I can’t even wrap my mind around that? Wtf?

[Demo 19,733]

8 hours ago, Hovadipo said:

Saw a stat tonight from the Lakers game that Lebron has played against 35% of players in the history of the NBA. I can’t even wrap my mind around that? Wtf?

That sounds impossible until you start doing the math and then it's not that nuts. Played 20 years. The League's only been around maybe 70 and for the 1st 20 or so there weren't that many teams. Wow

[moyemayhem 1,283]

Siakam trade is great for the Pacers, and I don’t understand the complaints.  His fit is perfect… Pacers needed length, toughness, defense, and a secondary scorer.  He checks all those boxes.  If Pacers stand pat and wait for a better option, we will be waiting years and spoiling Halliburton’s prime.  This team is fun, but not currently a threat, so it’s time to cash in some of our trade chips.  Two of the traded first round picks are late 2024’s so their value was going to vanish in a couple months anyway, got to use them while you can.  Also talent attracts talent, and we just became a lot more attractive to other players.  We will see how it works, but on paper it’s a huge win for the team.

[Demo 19,733]

In his last 2 games OG has played 43 and 44 minutes. Tom Thibodeau doing Tom Thibodeau things.

[Hovadipo 55,457]

2 hours ago, Demo said:

That sounds impossible until you start doing the math and then it's not that nuts. Played 20 years. The League's only been around maybe 70 and for the 1st 20 or so there weren't that many teams. Wow

The really nuts part is Lebron's longevity. Nothing about that guy lasting this long at his consistent level makes sense. I can set aside my dislike for him and admire a guy being a top-10 player for the entirety of 20 years.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,660]

Just now, Hovadipo said:

The really nuts part is Lebron's longevity. Nothing about that guy lasting this long at his consistent level makes sense. I can set aside my dislike for him and admire a guy being a top-10 player for the entirety of 20 years.

I can help make you understand.. it's called cheating lol. Everyone knows that man is juiced with everything you could think of. Plus he spends an insane amount of money to keep his body the way it is. But dude would have fit in well with the 90s MLB. He's "clean" because the NBA will turn a blind eye to him. LeBron could could shoot up some steroids on live TV in front of Adam Silver and go murder 10 fans in the stands and they'd create a trophy for him. ESPN would probably also give out some stat of "first player ever to shoot up steroid and kill 10+ fans in NBA history."