6'4" Guard Nick Zeisloft joins Hoosiers

[Banksyrules 4,814]

[quote name="JSHoosier" post="73572" timestamp="1404933981"]The MVC, a conference that had one team make the tournament. Bradley, a team that finished with a record of 12-20. Indiana State did make the NIT, so that's something I guess.[/quote] At this point I wouldn't bother. For some reason Campcrean looks for any avenue to try to make us blindly follow all the decisions coach makes. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

[JSHoosier 20,313]

At this point I wouldn't bother. For some reason Campcrean looks for any avenue to try to make us blindly follow all the decisions coach makes. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

There are several on the board like that.  Don't dare be critical, Tom Crean is above being questioned.  A player with modest stats in a bad conference, that's an outstanding signing.  A player that was the 5th leading scorer on an offense that ranked 232nd in scoring, it was only a matter of time before all the blue bloods came calling.

[CampHoosier 3,697]

The MVC, a conference that had one team make the tournament.  Bradley, a team that finished with a record of 12-20.  Indiana State did make the NIT, so that's something I guess.

 

I'm sorry to tell you this...come closer I need to whisper...WICHITA STATE WAS A #1 SEED

[Banksyrules 4,814]

[quote name="JSHoosier" post="73576" timestamp="1404934691"]There are several on the board like that. Don't dare be critical, Tom Crean is above being questioned. A player with modest stats in a bad conference, that's an outstanding signing. A player that was the 5th leading scorer on an offense that ranked 232nd in scoring, it was only a matter of time before all the blue bloods came calling.[/quote]

Quoting CampCrean "too funny"


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[CampHoosier 3,697]

At this point I wouldn't bother. For some reason Campcrean looks for any avenue to try to make us blindly follow all the decisions coach makes. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

 

I feel like this should be my tagline because I have written out so many times it's actually getting funny. I have been critical of Crean all season and all offseason for his sub patterns and BS press conferences where he only blames players. In fact, I went on a tirade and got called a "blind Crean hater with nothing to back up my statements." You either don't follow the board or just want to make blanket statements about me. That's lazy. This has nothing to do with Crean anyway, but you guys never fail to make it about him. I have almost 800 posts, do you really think they're all sunshine and dandelions about Crean? Wake up and don't ever call someone out without the facts. You make yourself look ignorant and now you have to back track. That's a clown post bro. Maybe the worst ever on this site. 

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

[quote name="JSHoosier" post="73576" timestamp="1404934691"]There are several on the board like that. Don't dare be critical, Tom Crean is above being questioned. A player with modest stats in a bad conference, that's an outstanding signing. A player that was the 5th leading scorer on an offense that ranked 232nd in scoring, it was only a matter of time before all the blue bloods came calling.[/quote] You're not bashing Crean. You're bashing this players. That is why no one wants to hear your tired whining. There are plenty of threads to bash Crean, but back off the kid who is excited to play for IU.


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[TheStillman 991]

So because I think that Nick isn't an awful signing (never said it's outstanding or changes the outlook for this season) I'm a blind Crean follower? Just want to make sure I understand my own worldview since you guys seem to know pretty well my overall feelings on IU basketball topics.

The problem with this thread is that in the realm of things to criticize about the current state of the program the Nick signing is way down on the list but because of your attitude towards things right now it must be declared awful and dumb.

We all get last season was bad an below expectations. We all agree this offseason has been bad news. No one disputes this! Just because it's been bad doesn't mean you have to project this on everything that happens within the program. Nick is signed, none of us know how he will do or what impact he will have on the court. Based on prior experiences he won't stop this staff from signing impact guys in 2015. So what are we even talking about at this point?




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[JSHoosier 20,313]

You're not bashing Crean. You're bashing this players. That is why no one wants to hear your tired whining. There are plenty of threads to bash Crean, but back off the kid who is excited to play for IU.


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Saying a role player from a bad team in a bad conference (Wichita State was all they had) isn't likely to translate well to the B1G is bashing?  That's another leap people always make, someone is critical so they are bashing.

 

I will never root for a player to fail, but I don't know what's wrong with calling a spade a spade.  A role player on a bad team is what he was, how in the world am I supposed to actually believe that will translate well to this level?

[Banksyrules 4,814]

[quote name="CampCrean" post="73579" timestamp="1404935619"]I feel like this should be my tagline because I have written out so many times it's actually getting funny. I have been critical of Crean all season and all offseason for his sub patterns and BS press conferences where he only blames players. In fact, I went on a tirade and got called a "blind Crean hater with nothing to back up my statements." You either don't follow the board or just want to make blanket statements about me. That's lazy. This has nothing to do with Crean anyway, but you guys never fail to make it about him. I have almost 800 posts, do you really think they're all sunshine and dandelions about Crean? Wake up and don't ever call someone out without the facts. You make yourself look ignorant and now you have to back track. That's a clown post bro. Maybe the worst ever on this site. [/quote]
Defensive much? I'm glad to see u used specific numbers ( the 800 posts) to finally support your argument for once. Isn't it nice not to talk in generalities? I'll bow down to your 800 post wisdom sir because obviously it gives you the right to allow spurt out anything like some Fox News reporter as long as it justifies blind loyalism. "Too funny" bro.


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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Holy crap I'm outta here. Let's just lock this trashed thread up and call it a day....


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[bronkonagurski 894]

Just got back from Austin and I see the normal circle of posting is still in effect here.  Grab a beverage of your choosing and breath deeply folks!  ;)  Sometimes I envision these threads as a dog chasing it's own tail in circles for infinity. 

 

As far as Nick goes, one of my IU buddies told me about the transfer during my trip and my friend had a very negative, jaded reaction about it.  I don't know, I mean I hope the kid can add something to the mix.  That is about all I can say for now. 

[Hovadipo 56,480]

Can someone put in a new CD? This one's stuck on replay.


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[fivestarhtm 18]

Very good point! Not only leadership but experience in big games, knws the system an players, an was an indiana player but goes along with all the others tht have left to. An it's only going to continue an get harder for crean. Only good out of this is he will be a good practice player.


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[Josh 12,649]

I don't understand how anybody can definitively say what kind of player Zeisloft will be for IU before he's played a single minute with the team.  Jeez the constant pessimism gets annoying.

[Hutch89 2,939]

I say he's going to be a good addition.  Only here for 2 years, has some playing experience (if he doesn't match up physically, he could match up mentally).  I like his trailing 3 statistic..

"Digging a bit further into Zeisloft’s effectiveness in transition, he hit 54.5 percent of his attempts as a trailer and also made seven 3s in transition on the right wing. On a team where the pace is likely to be pushed frequently, Zeisloft’s could hold value as a transition shooter who gets lost as defenses attempt to mark guys like Ferrell, Blackmon Jr., Troy Williams, Johnson and Robinson."

He'll fit right in with our team, and be a dude we can feel good about coming into the game as a relief role and not turning the ball over or causing fouls.. (like JH and AE did plenty of last year)

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

[quote name="Scohutch" post="73594" timestamp="1404938859"]I say he's going to be a good addition. Only here for 2 years, has some playing experience (if he doesn't match up physically, he could match up mentally). I like his trailing 3 statistic..

[color=rgb(0,0,0)][font='Open Sans'][size=4][background=rgb(249,249,249)]"Digging a bit further into Zeisloft’s effectiveness in transition, he hit 54.5 percent of his attempts as a trailer and also made seven 3s in transition on the right wing. On a team where the pace is likely to be pushed frequently, Zeisloft’s could hold value as a transition shooter who gets lost as defenses attempt to mark guys like Ferrell, Blackmon Jr., Troy Williams, Johnson and Robinson."

[size=4]He'll fit right in with our team, and be a dude we can feel good about coming into the game as a relief role and not turning the ball over or causing fouls.. (like JH and AE did plenty of last year)[/size][/background][/size][/font][/color][/quote] I like facts.


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[Stuhoo 81,301]

I don't understand how anybody can definitively say what kind of player Zeisloft will be for IU before he's played a single minute with the team.  Jeez the constant pessimism gets annoying.

 

 

Are you sure, Josh?

 

:D

[Josh 12,649]

Are you sure, Josh?

 

:D

 

:assassin:  I will cut you.

[RoadToZion 373]

JSHoosier's posts almost make coming to this site unbearable. Is everything really THAT bad in the world? Jesus. 

[PointBlank 116]

I think Zeisloft will fill a huge void by providing maturity and much needed leadership. This team severely lacked good leadership, good decision makers, and maturity last year. He might be able to reel Yogi in when needed and will hopefully be able to assist the others in regards to being at the proper place on the floor and running the offense as designed. That is if he is on the floor. Others failed miserably last year in trying to run the team and this includes TC and his staff.  Who knows, maybe there is something on the horizon in regards to another current player and this signing was a necessity?

 

He isn't a transfer which is going to initially get you all revved up about being on your team, but you are getting a player who another team saw fit to name as a captain. Not too often do you see a team captain leaving another program. Personally not a big fan of the team captain leaving his team behind, but Zeisloft had the opportunity to gain admission into Kelley and this obviously was a huge factor.