24 second shot clock.

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,781]

I think most oldtimers will disagree but I think the college game should move to a 24 second shot clock. I think high school should move to the 35 second clock.

The slow paced teams are beyond boring. From a spectator standpoint we all would enjoy the 24 second clock. The more skilled teams would win more often. Teams would learn to get into their sets quicker. Bring it up the court quicker.

Maybe go to 30 for college. Idk, but 35 seconds is far too long. I hate seeing teams dribble/pass around the outside for 30 secs with no desire to score and then let one fly at the end of clock. Some teams like IU this year didnt even try to get into attack mode until 10 secs remaining.

I don't say this based entirely on IUs half court struggles but it does play a part in my thinking, I think in the long run, everyone wins. Fans and players.

[KingPG21 6,587]

I'd prefer 30 second shot clock. 

 

But completely agree about the issues with the 35 second shot clock, there are too many teams that have no desire to initiate an actual offense for 25-30 seconds, sucks the life out of the game. And extending the shot clock to the 40-45 seconds like some want would just make things worse. 

 

Edit: Shit thought this was in regards to college. My stance remains the same though

[Hovadipo 59,179]

Having a shot clock in high school would be nearly impossible.


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[JSHoosier 21,492]

I'd go with 30, and keep it the same in men's and women's ball.  I can't stand the NBA so I'd really hate college having a 24 second shot clock.

[IUfan_Charlie 3,867]

Having a shot clock in high school would be nearly impossible.


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why?

[Hovadipo 59,179]

[quote name="IUfan_Charlie" post="57510" timestamp="1396661413"]why?[/quote]

In smaller schools, the cost alone would be enough to keep it out of the question. You also would need someone smart enough to run it. From my experience, it's tough enough finding someone to run a scoreboard.


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[CrossboneIU22 1,446]

I'm not an old timer and I disagree. 35 is far enough.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 49,781]

I'm not an old timer and I disagree. 35 is far enough. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

You like the 35 second clock? Why? Way too much time. With PROPER ball movement and fundamental skills, there is no need for that much time. 15 seconds of it is WASTED nearly every trip. This applies to most NCAA teams. Some, like Wisconsin haves employed stall ball in the past to dizzying success. I feel, as a current fan, and prior player, 35 seconds is far too much. Maybe 30 is better than 24. Maybe 28? But 35? I see no good reason for it, besides TRADITION.

[djsalway 4,161]

I think it just needs to go to 30. Compromise.

[WayneFleekHoosier 49,781]

I think it just needs to go to 30. Compromise.

I would be happy with that. 24 may be a bit much, but 28 or 30 would help the cause.

[Clete Johnson 17]

As many shot clock violations I saw this year, from our Hoosiers, and other teams. I am not sure that is a good idea.

[djsalway 4,161]

I think the biggest problem with 24 is that they are young kids and they will end up taking bad shots too often. The women have a 30 second shot clock, so let's just make it universally 30 in college.

[Dalton26 17,018]

29.3 second shot clock sounds about right.


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[HoosierReb01 7,511]

I think most oldtimers will disagree but I think the college game should move to a 24 second shot clock. I think high school should move to the 35 second clock.

The slow paced teams are beyond boring. From a spectator standpoint we all would enjoy the 24 second clock. The more skilled teams would win more often. Teams would learn to get into their sets quicker. Bring it up the court quicker.

Maybe go to 30 for college. Idk, but 35 seconds is far too long. I hate seeing teams dribble/pass around the outside for 30 secs with no desire to score and then let one fly at the end of clock. Some teams like IU this year didnt even try to get into attack mode until 10 secs remaining.

I don't say this based entirely on IUs half court struggles but it does play a part in my thinking, I think in the long run, everyone wins. Fans and players.

Hate the idea. The thing I like about the college game is that it is not all about skill. Well coached teams often beat skilled teams because they do slow the pace down and force the more skilled team to play the game different. Its part of the beauty of the college game. Strategy balancing out a skill advantage. I have no interest in changing the rules to make a lower tier NBA. I don't watch the NBA for a reason. I would be just as happy if they went back to a 45 second shot clock, although I see no need for it. 

[IU Hoosier41 14,465]

I agree with most here. A move to 30 would benefit everyone involved. I'd be for a move to 24 to push pace ,but I think we would see a SHARP decline in the quality of the game. I feel that is too quick and would push too many turnovers.


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[Hwy 1 2,053]

If they change the shot clock will Bob Knight be able to figure out what it is?

[CrossboneIU22 1,446]

You like the 35 second clock? Why? Way too much time. With PROPER ball movement and fundamental skills, there is no need for that much time. 15 seconds of it is WASTED nearly every trip. This applies to most NCAA teams. Some, like Wisconsin haves employed stall ball in the past to dizzying success. I feel, as a current fan, and prior player, 35 seconds is far too much. Maybe 30 is better than 24. Maybe 28? But 35? I see no good reason for it, besides TRADITION.

 

The reason I think 35 is just right is because we have proof of what 24 looks like and its called the NBA which is my biggest gripe against the NBA.  There is no offense, its run down the court, make 1 pass and do some one-on-one move and shoot the ball, rebound go to the other end and repeat.  I like to see offensive sets with movement, screens passing from one side of the court to the other looking for a good shot or mismatch in the defense.  I like the strategy behind it, watching a team play solid defense for 35 seconds, not just running up and down the court chucking up shots.  I hate the NBA because of the short shot clock alone and the college game would evolve to the same thing.

 

If shot clock violations in college were rare, then I would agree with you but they seem to happen every game on multiple possessions or very close at least.  I don't want to see every possession end with a crap shot just because the clock is running down.

[Hovadipo 59,179]

^^ Actually, the ball movement in the NBA is pretty impressive. Last year, IU looked like the NBA you're referencing while the real NBA moves the ball like a Bo Ryan team. Yes, players will go 1 on 1 at times, but that's just basketball. The NBA isn't the glorified pickup game many make it out to be.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 49,781]

^^ Actually, the ball movement in the NBA is pretty impressive. Last year, IU looked like the NBA you're referencing while the real NBA moves the ball like a Bo Ryan team. Yes, players will go 1 on 1 at times, but that's just basketball. The NBA isn't the glorified pickup game many make it out to be. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

I agree totally. Watch a good NBA team/game, remove prior bias and be amazed. It truly is world class when done well. I.e San Antonio would be a good example.

Granted if a team has a once a decade player either college or NBA, you're going to see more one on one from those teams because the coaches are smart. If you have a player THAT great, then put them in a position to score until the other team proves they can stop him. Hell, everyone loves coach K, but if you watched Duke this year, it looked like a one man show all day. They won when Jabari was hot and lost when he was cold.

My point is, some people need to watch more NBA, without bias.

I have already agreed 24 may be too short but 28 or 30 would serve everyone's interest.

[KingPG21 6,587]

^^ Actually, the ball movement in the NBA is pretty impressive. Last year, IU looked like the NBA you're referencing while the real NBA moves the ball like a Bo Ryan team. Yes, players will go 1 on 1 at times, but that's just basketball. The NBA isn't the glorified pickup game many make it out to be.


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Yeah. The stereotype that all the NBA games are just glorified pickup games where teams don't run many, some say no, sets/plays is kind of obnoxious. Spurs are a perfect example of a team that runs lots of sets, hell the Pacers who aren't very good offensively run lots of sets throughout the games.