Is our best best mimicking 2006 Villanova?

[Magnanimous 4,633]

Foye, Lowry, Nardi, Ray. 4 guards/wings, go small and gun? May be our best/only option with what is expected to be a strong backcourt with Yogi, James, Stan, possibly Robert and with Troy on the wing, and having nobody of value in the post. That Villanova team didn't have a player over 6'4 average more than 5.5 ppg.

[djsalway 4,161]

I actually really like the comparison. That team had a great offense and the mismatches gave them some advantages. I think it could work. Split Devin and Hanner at time at the 5 and just run all the time. Maybe even get Maten and Cunningham and put them at the 5 (go really small). All in all, it's a possibility, but not sure Crean would do it. We shall wait and see.

[BlueDevil 8,899]

[quote name="djsalway" post="55884" timestamp="1396150073"]I actually really like the comparison. That team had a great offense and the mismatches gave them some advantages. I think it could work. Split Devin and Hanner at time at the 5 and just run all the time. Maybe even get Maten and Cunningham and put them at the 5 (go really small). All in all, it's a possibility, but not sure Crean would do it. We shall wait and see.[/quote]

I actually would be very interested to see this I think it could be very effective especially with shooters.

[djsalway 4,161]

I actually would be very interested to see this I think it could be very effective especially with shooters.

Honestly, with that style of offense, Max could see time as a wing who sprints the floor and stands at the 3 point line. I'd be in favor of that. Him, JBJ, and RoJo are all fantastic shooters. I think this offense would definitely play to their strengths.

[BlueDevil 8,899]

[quote name="djsalway" post="55893" timestamp="1396150472"]Honestly, with that style of offense, Max could see time as a wing who sprints the floor and stands at the 3 point line. I'd be in favor of that. Him, JBJ, and RoJo are all fantastic shooters. I think this offense would definitely play to their strengths.[/quote]

Yep I'm just hoping we run an offense next year that suites what we have. I think we can have a lot better outlook on the season if we ran something like this IMO.

[BlueDevil 8,899]

[quote name="Napleshoosier" post="55899" timestamp="1396151028"]If we go real small we HAVE to have a real good press to impliment.[/quote]

Yep exactly. Give em hell for 40 minutes.

[SilverAtlanta 69]

Will we ever play Jurkin at the 5? Why does this guy take up a scholarship, if he will never play? Someone once said something about his family situation etc.(I have no idea what that situation is)  but how long does he eat space on the bench as opposed to the floor? If he just rebounded, blocked a few shots, did anything but just sit!

[JSHoosier 20,795]

Will we ever play Jurkin at the 5? Why does this guy take up a scholarship, if he will never play? Someone once said something about his family situation etc.(I have no idea what that situation is)  but how long does he eat space on the bench as opposed to the floor? If he just rebounded, blocked a few shots, did anything but just sit!

Why does it matter that the 13th man has a scholarship but never plays?

[BlueDevil 8,899]

[quote name="JSHoosier" post="55999" timestamp="1396198456"]Why does it matter that the 13th man has a scholarship but never plays?[/quote] Pretty much how I feel. Crean gave him the scholarship, honor it.

[JSHoosier 20,795]

Pretty much how I feel. Crean gave him the scholarship, honor it.

Scholarships are technically just one year renewable deals, but the 13th man doesn't player any if at all anywhere so to me it doesn't matter.

[Parakeet Jones 3,818]

I had the same thought yesterday. I wouldn't want to see it every year but I think that is our best blueprint for next year. Stan and Troy are really going to have to improve their shooting though for it to work.

[Rayl 527]

That 2006 Villanova team had the fourth lowest turnover rate in the country. It would be a miracle for a Crean team to ever get close to that. It would take several miracles for use to make that big of improvement in one year.

[Magnanimous 4,633]

That 2006 Villanova team had the fourth lowest turnover rate in the country. It would be a miracle for a Crean team to ever get close to that. It would take several miracles for use to make that big of improvement in one year.

 

Of the FF teams, we beat one and lost to another one by 1. I know we had some bad losses last year, but we also had the capability to play with some of the better teams in the country. More disciplined basketball (less turnovers), and I think that we are closer to being good again than a lot of people are giving us credit for. The value of an upperclassmen PG cannot be understated enough. If we can shoot, limit turnovers, and play good defense, we can be very successful. Look no further than Louisville last year.
 

[SilverAtlanta 69]

When you need "Bigs" and you have one riding your bench on scholarship, develop him or explain his talents might be better served elsewhere. If I were getting less playing time than walk-ons I'd figure it out on my own, but maybe Jurkin likes riding the pine, no pressure to perform, free education, Seems odd to be discussing a 3 guard line up with a scholarship 7 ft. center sitting on the bench, playing behind walk-ons.  See how long that "honoring" scholarships" deal works if CTC has another class with more players than scholarships...that is a IF...

[schoosier 3,526]

If we go real small we HAVE to have a real good press to implement.

Which we should have used much more this year to get teams to play fast. The Iowa game showed what we could do in an uptempo pace. I just wish we would have done more pressing based on our roster.

[Baltimore Hoosier 986]

 

Foye, Lowry, Nardi, Ray. 4 guards/wings, go small and gun? May be our best/only option with what is expected to be a strong backcourt with Yogi, James, Stan, possibly Robert and with Troy on the wing, and having nobody of value in the post. That Villanova team didn't have a player over 6'4 average more than 5.5 ppg.

 

 

I like the idea of run and gun.. But what if there's an off shooting night or the other team decides to go big for 40min? I think that's exactly what happened to 2006 Villanova and would probably be the major issue any time you put this kind of team on the floor.

[Magnanimous 4,633]

I like the idea of run and gun.. But what if there's an off shooting night or the other team decides to go big for 40min? I think that's exactly what happened to 2006 Villanova and would probably be the major issue any time you put this kind of team on the floor.

 

If the other team goes big then you have to go fast, press, zone, etc. There's not much else you can do at this point unless we do land a competent big man. This is the hand we've been deal (constructed). Got to play to its strengths.

[Adillac 953]

I have no reason to believe Crean will have us pressing. Just because it would be a strength doesn't mean he will exploit that strength (see Zeller & Vonleh). However, I do think we have the potential to win 20 games or close to it. Our backcourt will be formidable.

We keep saying Crean is a good recruiter, but I don't think he has really proven that even. Davis and Sampson both landed some elite players. It's Indiana. It almost doesn't matter who the coach is; we can land a top 25 player every other year blindfolded. But that isn't enough if we want to truly be back among the elite. Kansas, Duke, Kentucky, and UNC out recruit us substantially every single year. Crean is simply not good enough. We need a Sean Miller, not a Crean or a Shaka Smart. I would even argue Stevens isn't the slam dunk many seem to think. We need a college basketball rock star. Stevens had a remarkable two year run at Butler. I'm sorry but that isn't enough for me to think he is the undisputed answer. Butler has dominated their weak conference for about two decades now. Two NCAA runs does not a legend make IMO.


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[8bucks 6,587]

[quote name="Adillac" post="57150" timestamp="1396516926"]I have no reason to believe Crean will have us pressing. Just because it would be a strength doesn't mean he will exploit that strength (see Zeller & Vonleh). However, I do think we have the potential to win 20 games or close to it. Our backcourt will be formidable. We keep saying Crean is a good recruiter, but I don't think he has really proven that even. Davis and Sampson both landed some elite players. It's Indiana. It almost doesn't matter who the coach is; we can land a top 25 player every other year blindfolded. But that isn't enough if we want to truly be back among the elite. Kansas, Duke, Kentucky, and UNC out recruit us substantially every single year. Crean is simply not good enough. We need a Sean Miller, not a Crean or a Shaka Smart. I would even argue Stevens isn't the slam dunk many seem to think. We need a college basketball rock star. Stevens had a remarkable two year run at Butler. I'm sorry but that isn't enough for me to think he is the undisputed answer. Butler has dominated their weak conference for about two decades now. Two NCAA runs does not a legend make IMO. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners[/quote] What is it about Sean Miller that is better than Stevens? Miller has 2 elite eights a sweet sixteen and 2 tourney misses since he was at AZ. Add another elite eight and a Sweet sixteen at Xavier and it looks better than Creans resume. Stevens was coach 6 years and made the tournament 5 times. I think he lost in the first round once, won one game twice and twice was national runner up. Is Stevens a sure fire guy, no I agree with you, but I am curious what suggests miller is closer than Stevens. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners