Vonleh Leaning Towards NBA Draft

[HoosierRob 1,042]

I can promise another year like this next year and crean will be gone


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[Hovadipo 56,256]

[quote name="HoosierRob" post="48049" timestamp="1394936911"]I can promise another year like this next year and crean will be gone


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I think this summer will be interesting if there's a mass defection. Just a thought.


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[HoosierSadaseci 2,258]

Look at the bright side! Crean has a reason to say it's not his fault next year! And, the apologists will be sure to mention it after every loss, of which there will be many. It's great from a certain point of view.

Uh, he put the team together, he doesn't have a plan B or C for Vonleh leaving early...it's his fault.

[HoosierRob 1,042]

If I had to guess I'd say hollowell,jurkin, possibly davis will leave.. Almost certain hollowell


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[djsalway 4,161]

Hate the negativity here lately. Just sayin'.

[Rayl 527]

Uh, he put the team together, he doesn't have a plan B or C for Vonleh leaving early...it's his fault.

Well, yeah. But, just wait and see as certain folks lower the bar yet again and blame it on Vonleh leaving. It won't be Crean's fault. Never is.

[HoosierRob 1,042]

[quote name="djsalway" post="48060" timestamp="1394937174"]Hate the negativity here lately. Just sayin'.[/quote]hard not to be with the way this year has gone man


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[8bucks 6,455]

[quote name="djsalway" post="48060" timestamp="1394937174"]Hate the negativity here lately. Just sayin'.[/quote]

Hate the losing as well. We would be singing kumbuya if we were winning. Well most would be.


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[djsalway 4,161]

hard not to be with the way this year has gone man<br /><br /><br />Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

i understand completely, but we love our Hoosiers. There has to be a little support, not 100% negativity. I get complaining sometimes, but can we support Crean a little bit at all? Luke transferring screwed his plan B.

[HoosierRob 1,042]

Hard watching all these teams playing while we are the only "blue blood" program hoping for the nit.. It's really just unacceptable


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[HoosierRob 1,042]

Don't get me wrong I've been with crean the whole time.. But with the transfers and suspensions and this year.. He's starting to test my patience


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[mdn82 25,510]

Well, yeah. But, just wait and see as certain folks lower the bar yet again and blame it on Vonleh leaving. It won't be Crean's fault. Never is.

 

I don't really see that much anymore around here.  They want him to succeed, but it is on him at this point.  When all he had was Luke and Noah, that was on him.  He has only recruited lottery tickets for bigs in between Zeller and Luke.  Luke leaving hurt him worse than Noah.  

[HoosierSadaseci 2,258]

Hate the negativity here lately. Just sayin'.

Well when you're 17-14 with many bad losses, your team is turnover prone, and the head coach often times appears to be clueless, and your best player and only quality big man is leaving early for the NBA, and there's rumblings of other defections yet to come, and next season leaves little hope of being better than this past season, well it's kind of hard to be cheery.

[mdn82 25,510]

Well when you're 17-14 with many bad losses, your team is turnover prone, and the head coach often times appears to be clueless, and your best player and only quality big man is leaving early for the NBA, and there's rumblings of other defections yet to come, and next season leaves little hope of being better than this past season, well it's kind of hard to be cheery.

17-15?

[BlueDevil 8,687]

[quote name="mdn82" post="48071" timestamp="1394937550"]I don't really see that much anymore around here. They want him to succeed, but it is on him at this point. When all he had was Luke and Noah, that was on him. He has only recruited lottery tickets for bigs in between Zeller and Luke. Luke leaving hurt him worse than Noah. [/quote] And maybe he has but it seems like he didn't try too hard to find a replacement after luke left. I know we are after a couple guys but they aren't even like 6'10 guys are they?

[djsalway 4,161]

Well when you're 17-14 with many bad losses, your team is turnover prone, and the head coach often times appears to be clueless, and your best player and only quality big man is leaving early for the NBA, and there's rumblings of other defections yet to come, and next season leaves little hope of being better than this past season, well it's kind of hard to be cheery.

im personally not asking for anyone to be cheery. At all. Just a little more support expected on my end. We are a community that gathered here to SUPPORT our program.

[mdn82 25,510]

And maybe he has but it seems like he didn't try too hard to find a replacement after luke left. I know we are after a couple guys but they aren't even like 6'10 guys are they?

Well, 2014 was weak for skilled bigs.  Think, Trey Lyles was committed to IU.  If he was coming here next year, would people still be worried?  Probably not.  There weren't many instant impact bigs out of 2014.  So Crean banked on getting one instant impact in 2013 and one potentially very good 4 year player.  I think we can agree Luke would have started next year and been a key contributor next year.  Problem is Luke was the only well rounded big we had recruited for 2012, 2013, and 2014.  When he transfers, Crean's seat was bound to get hot.  

[HoosierSadaseci 2,258]

And maybe he has but it seems like he didn't try too hard to find a replacement after luke left. I know we are after a couple guys but they aren't even like 6'10 guys are they?

Watching all these conference tournaments this past week I've seen many teams in smaller conferences with big men that are actually pretty good, and I would say probably weren't highly rated out of high school, hence the reason they're at these smaller schools. Crean could get other big men, he just isn't good at it...and the fact that Cody and Noah never really developed under Crean is going to hurt, too.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,389]

No surprise here. He has been protecting his status for months. Why does a guy shooting 60% from 3 not shoot more 3's? I'll tell you why, he will miss 14 of his next 16, then the scouts can't say, he has outside range. All a ploy on potential and nothing about production.


Give me a player that fights, shoots, and produces, not a guy protecting his interests.

Damn, I'm pissed.

Also, Crean should have seen this coming from a mile away, oh wait, he did, and Goodluck said no thanks.

[BlueDevil 8,687]

[quote name="mdn82" post="48076" timestamp="1394937855"]Well, 2014 was weak for skilled bigs. Think, Trey Lyles was committed to IU. If he was coming here next year, would people still be worried? Probably not. There weren't many instant impact bigs out of 2014. So Crean banked on getting one instant impact in 2013 and one potentially very good 4 year player. I think we can agree Luke would have started next year and been a key contributor next year. Problem is Luke was the only well rounded big we had recruited for 2012, 2013, and 2014. When he transfers, Crean's seat was bound to get hot. [/quote]

Very well put.