AH1971 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said: Two of our starters have extensive familiarity with the coach/system. And the other 10 players don't nor have they ever played with one another. Home Jersey 1 Quote
AH1971 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, str8baller said: Keeping Sisley plus 3 new recruits should help. We actually have the chance to keep a bunch of guys this year and run it back with only a couple of transfers, but nobody wants to do that either. The more we keep, the better. That's more money for less players in the portal. Can really hone in on 2-3 high impact players. Class of '66 Old Fart, Home Jersey, Stuhoo and 1 other 4 Quote
Home Jersey Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 6 minutes ago, AH1971 said: The more we keep, the better. That's more money for less players in the portal. Can really hone in on 2-3 high impact players. Yes I don't think this can be understated. I think we need to add 5 guys for next year's team, which means 2 have to transfer. Harris and Andrej are by far more interesting to me than Ristic and Drake. I'd like to see us add 2 bigs and 3 guards. J34 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 6 minutes ago, AH1971 said: The more we keep, the better. That's more money for less players in the portal. Can really hone in on 2-3 high impact players. Say we keep four current players + the three freshmen. That's maybe $2.5 million for seven players at $350k per on average. That leaves approximately $10 million for six players. Bring in four of them at an average of $750k each, and that'd leave seven million for two players; a $4m and a $3m. That's a ton of budget if we can get the lower priced ones in the fold. J34, Hoosierinbham and Home Jersey 3 Quote
AH1971 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Just now, Stuhoo said: Say we keep four current players + the three freshmen. That's maybe $2.5 million for seven players at $350k per on average. That leaves approximately $10 million for six players. Bring in four of them at an average of $750k each, and that'd leave seven million for two players; a $4m and a $3m. That's a ton of budget if we can get the lower priced ones in the fold. Correct but that still seems to get lost on a few people. When you're literally "buying" every piece from the portal like last year, you hit your budget rather quickly. J34 1 Quote
Home Jersey Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: Say we keep four current players + the three freshmen. That's maybe $2.5 million for seven players at $350k per on average. That leaves approximately $10 million for six players. Bring in four of them at an average of $750k each, and that'd leave seven million for two players; a $4m and a $3m. That's a ton of budget if we can get the lower priced ones in the fold. Is this factoring in the rumored 2.5M bump? Just thinking for a more conservative estimate, if the total budget is 10M and 2.5M goes to returning players + freshmen, then it's 7.5M for 6 players. That's considerably trickier IMO Quote
Stuhoo Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Just now, AH1971 said: Correct but that still seems to get lost on a few people. When you're literally "buying" every piece from the portal like last year, you hit your budget rather quickly. And this time we should have over half of the roster budgeted for before we go portalling. I'm guessing Sisley, Drake, Miles, Dorn, and Acimovich. Drake looks very connected mentally and Acimovich joined the team with a redshirt year expected. Add in the three freshmen and we only need four or five portal additions. AH1971 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Home Jersey said: Is this factoring in the rumored 2.5M bump? Just thinking for a more conservative estimate, if the total budget is 10M and 2.5M goes to returning players + freshmen, then it's 7.5M for 6 players. That's considerably trickier IMO I think it's very likely that more than three or four players return. We currently have seven low priced players that can return. Five seems about right. Even if we needed to pick up six, I'd expect at least two of them to be very low-priced options. So your $7.5 M for six players would turn into $6.5M total for the top three signees. Something like $3.5M, $2M, $1.0M for our top three. Home Jersey and skhoosier2 2 Quote
AH1971 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: I think it's very likely that more than three or four players return. We currently have seven low priced players that can return. Five seems about right. Even if we needed to pick up six, I'd expect at least two of them to be very low-priced options. So your $7.5 M for six players would turn into $6.5M total for the top three signees. Something like $3.5M, $2M, $1.0M for our top three. From the portal IU needs at minimum three high end starters, one preferably an all-conference caliber player, a backup big, and a 4 man that can start/play heavy rotation minutes depending on Sisley's development. That should be a non-starter. Potentially add a 6th player (backup PG) depending on how the staff views Drake. Quote
Home Jersey Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 8 minutes ago, AH1971 said: From the portal IU needs at minimum three high end starters, one preferably an all-conference caliber player, a backup big, and a 4 man that can start/play heavy rotation minutes depending on Sisley's development. That should be a non-starter. Potentially add a 6th player (backup PG) depending on how the staff views Drake. Who do you have starting at C next year in this scenario? edit: I think I misread your post Quote
Home Jersey Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago IMO we need a starting front court and back court + backup PG. Return Sisley, Harris, Andrej and + two starter quality bigs and the front court should be fine. We have plenty of guys who can play the 2/3. Not a ton of guys who can run point. Pay big for the starting PG and C. Pay the starting CG 1-1.5M. Try and find a good value 4 to compete with Sisley and a competent back up PG Quote
AH1971 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Home Jersey said: IMO we need a starting front court and back court + backup PG. Return Sisley, Harris, Andrej and + two starter quality bigs and the front court should be fine. We have plenty of guys who can play the 2/3. Not a ton of guys who can run point. Pay big for the starting PG and C. Pay the starting CG 1-1.5M. Try and find a good value 4 to compete with Sisley and a competent back up PG We need a really good center and two elite guards. Lock those positions down early and you can add to fit from there. Home Jersey, skhoosier2, BGleas and 1 other 4 Quote
AH1971 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Home Jersey said: Who do you have starting at C next year in this scenario? edit: I think I misread your post yes should have added those high end starters need to be a C and two G's Home Jersey 1 Quote
Golfman25 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 11 hours ago, spe317 said: We can’t possibly know who our targets are since guys aren’t in the portal yet…that being said yeah I can’t imagine they haven’t identified at least a few top targets. Personally, if the fan base/admin has the stomach for it, I’d prefer long term sustained success over flash in the pan. I can’t handle another senior transfer heavy team year after year. They should definitely be compiling a list of targets right now -- guys that are likely to hit the portal and guys that might be "enticed" to hit the portal. :) Quote
Uspshoosier Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/typically-careful-with-words-scott-dolson-sent-a-strong-message-to-iu-basketball-fans/?fbclid=IwZnRzaAQeYaxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEek-T6vWj7rUUIkEtfQAj62idCeo_vlI--Eu1e7yKKkAixrmGHVhHW4sGklVQ_aem_tWPkBJwsytJrg-644RamJQ J34, skhoosier2 and HinnyHoosier 3 Quote
HinnyHoosier Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/typically-careful-with-words-scott-dolson-sent-a-strong-message-to-iu-basketball-fans/?fbclid=IwZnRzaAQeYaxleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEek-T6vWj7rUUIkEtfQAj62idCeo_vlI--Eu1e7yKKkAixrmGHVhHW4sGklVQ_aem_tWPkBJwsytJrg-644RamJQ It's almost as if he was able to mix in the situational reality with his expectations....hm. BGleas, Stuhoo and Uspshoosier 3 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago With Adrian Autry expected to be terminated at Syracuse - players with eligibility remaining. 6-9 So Donnie Freeman (16.5p, 7.2r) 6-4 Jr Nait George (10.9p, 5.4a) 6-5 Fr Kiyan Anthony (8.0p) Had an IU offer 6-8 Fr Sadiq White 6-8 So Tyler Betsey Had an IU offer 6-9 So Ibrahim Souare 6-6 Fr Luke Fennell Home Jersey, J34, skhoosier2 and 1 other 4 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said: With Adrian Autry expected to be terminated at Syracuse - players with eligibility remaining. 6-9 So Donnie Freeman (16.5p, 7.2r) 6-4 Jr Nait George (10.9p, 5.4a) 6-5 Fr Kiyan Anthony (8.0p) Had an IU offer 6-8 Fr Sadiq White 6-8 So Tyler Betsey Had an IU offer 6-9 So Ibrahim Souare 6-6 Fr Luke Fennell 30 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said: With Adrian Autry expected to be terminated at Syracuse - players with eligibility remaining. 6-9 So Donnie Freeman (16.5p, 7.2r) 6-4 Jr Nait George (10.9p, 5.4a) 6-5 Fr Kiyan Anthony (8.0p) Had an IU offer 6-8 Fr Sadiq White 6-8 So Tyler Betsey Had an IU offer 6-9 So Ibrahim Souare 6-6 Fr Luke Fennell As talented as Anthony seems to be and his potential i wouldn’t want that circus pressure that exists with family. Class of '66 Old Fart 1 Quote
CSP Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 34 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: As talented as Anthony seems to be and his potential i wouldn’t want that circus pressure that exists with family. Cooper+Singleton have both been more productive. Quote
Alford Bailey Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago I’m expecting a lot more turnover with this roster than most. We were late in the game last year and this group was kinda thrown together. Wouldn’t even be surprised if Sisley leaves. I expect continuity to begin after next year not with this group. Dolson has basically eluded to this in recent comments saying this group was put together just to get through the season. Quote
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