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Hard to win games with firepower of IU Ladies challenged to score more than in the 60s almost every big ten game….with S.C. scoring about a third+ of those points.  
Highest big ten point total this year is one game thus far vs Nebraska = 73.
IU Ladies will lose a third+ of scoring from Shay C. 

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You have to try pretty hard to recruit as horribly as we did for the past three years given our recent success. 

 

Still can't believe we're this bad. I had us pegged for 6-12 in the conference after the Minnesota game. Now I'm thinking 2-16 is more likely. 

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12 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

You have to try pretty hard to recruit as horribly as we did for the past three years given our recent success. 

 

Still can't believe we're this bad. I had us pegged for 6-12 in the conference after the Minnesota game. Now I'm thinking 2-16 is more likely. 

Won’t be popular… many of the players are bad. But I don’t know how anyone can say this is anywhere near a well coached team. The same stale terrible offense, the same awful rotation, the miscues and mistakes of moving screens, that’s just all coaching. 

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I am now officially much more concerned about state of program. While help is seemingly on the way with the elite recruits next year, roster needs a major scrub.

Outside Lenee, Maya, and Navaeh all these players need to be replaced with Big Ten level ones which I think three of the incoming class very much are, but as we see newcomers take time. Based on previous life experiences I kind of think (although guessing) that one of two things or a combination of both is in play.

I had an employee who was elite for years but was burnt out and wanted to retire. I talked them into staying and were about 50% of themselves after that and retired a yr later. Based on Moren's comments about retirement, have to wonder if she did not bring up and Dolson talked her out of it and she is now coaching at 50% effort, which based on her in game timeouts and motivation looks that way.

However, we may have gotten to her contemplating retirement based on last year and a situation with my neighbors growing up. Our neighbors always bragged about how perfect their relationship was and that they never fought. A few years later they had a seemingly minor fight and the next thing you know they were divorced within a couple of months as they had no idea how to handle conflict. Have to wonder if Moren had such a great great group of girls for the last decade both on and off the court, that were so low maintenance, that when conflict hit last year she had no idea how to handle it and immediately wanted to walk away having never dealt with it in her career.

Moren and Dolson need to sit down in offseason and formulate a plan for future and Moren needs to decide if she still wants to do this. Seemingly things should be better going forward given recruiting surge past couple of years but only if Moren's heart is 100% in it.

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10 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Well, if Moren does want to retire or is losing interest, this fella is just a phone call away. 

Could always bring him back to Bloomington. 
 

 

Moren def sounded apathetic in postgame presser. Most significant things she said was Z's latest injury is to other foot but didn't elaborate on much else regarding it or give timeline.

If Moren is indeed ready to call its quits, my first call would actually be to Shauna Green at Illinois of halfway realistic candidates and see if you can entice her to move a state over. She is special and best coach in league in my mind.

Assuming Green declines though, Box would def me my next call and probably most realistic candidate.  

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26 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Well, if Moren does want to retire or is losing interest, this fella is just a phone call away. 

Could always bring him back to Bloomington. 
 

 

He was the architect of our Grace Berger/Mackenzie Holmes masterpiece of a team. Our recruiting fell off a cliff after he left. 

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23 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Would hate to see TM go out on such a bad note but if she does given the state of football, I could see giving the job to Patburg on a budget.

I am a Patburg fan.  But in all honesty, I'm not sure she's ready to be a head coach just yet.

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T. Moren, Rhet W., and Box seemed to be a strong staff together along with many high character players. 
Box became coach at Miami Ohio and Rhet W. health seemed to coincide with some of the current IU Lady issues.  

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One of my questions is will this highly touted class even show up when the season is finished? It’s likely they won’t make the big ten tournament. It’s not like the old days, this stuff changes much more. Easily can commit elsewhere. And truthfully the women’s recruiting and rankings is not to the same level as men’s. Nobody knows. Most of them play little to no competition and pad stats. Maya and caffey are not very significant thus far. Wiseman was touted and doesn’t even sniff the floor. Spreen was a miss basketball she doesn’t know where the court is. 

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57 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Would hate to see TM go out on such a bad note but if she does given the state of football, I could see giving the job to Patburg on a budget.

Please no patburg as coach. She has been there throughout this underachieving stage, and probably shouldn’t have played as much as she did on the last iu team she competed with. 

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Great coaches don't always go out on a positive note. CTM last summer said she was on a "treadmill" and described last year's loss to Butler as "bitter", both of which made me wonder if she was not just fed up. Somewhat inexplicable is her inability to bag top 10 recruits, given that she successfully coached the national team twice recently.

Yeah, Glenn Box has been doing a great job at Miami--they knocked off conference rival Ball State by 20 at Ball State. Maybe just need some renewed energy: Carly Thibault-DuDonis is on the verge of a 3rd straight MAAC championship at Fairfield. https://fairfieldstags.com/sports/womens-basketball/roster/coaches/carly-thibault-dudonis/882 

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Maybe, T. Moren deep down doesn’t want to deal with all the NIL nonsense Including how she may feel that she is at a disadvantage and has self actualized at IU.  The Ladies college game seems to be moving faster than IU Ladies program.  She may be ready in her mind for a new career trajectory……however, nothing from the horse’s mouth so this conversation is just speculation.

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52 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

She’s entitled to a bad season. Knight had one ( season on the brink) and won later. She deserves a chance to regroup and adjust. 

There have been many red flags thru the past several years.  A knight team never looked like this in my memory. 

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