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40 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

No, as USPS pointed out UM has been one of the best teams in the B1G for some time minus the 2 year or so hiccup- it’s apples and oranges between programs. IU will require more time, it is what it is 

They were 8-24 before Dusty took over. That’s a worse spot than any IU coach this century has taken over. 

Posted
23 minutes ago, str8baller said:

They were 8-24 before Dusty took over. That’s a worse spot than any IU coach this century has taken over. 

That's true.  

I think when they hired Jawan and Memphis hired Penny and they initially did well with their loose, player friendly environment, it looked like times had changed and you could have success with that approach. I believe that greased the skids for the Woody move. Neither of the previously mentioned names had hc experience or the connections with people such as World Wide Wes....and others. 

We should all think back to that time and be able to relax a bit right now. 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, str8baller said:

Torvik or somebody’s entire roster rating is a better judge. And we’re doing well there. But not top 5. 

IU (82.6) is ranked #2 in Torvik's Projective Effective Talent ranking, right behind Duke (89.1).  Projected Effective Talent is Torvik’s way of estimating the overall quality of a roster after accounting for more than just recruiting rankings. It factors in things like transfers, returning production, experience, and expected playing time to project how much talent will actually contribute on the court. A team can have highly ranked recruits, but if they are inexperienced or unlikely to play major roles, their effective talent rating may be lower.

https://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php?sort=tal&conlimit=

Torvik.png

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Posted
1 hour ago, HoosierHoopster said:

No, as USPS pointed out UM has been one of the best teams in the B1G for some time minus the 2 year or so hiccup- it’s apples and oranges between programs. IU will require more time, it is what it is 

Wonder what ius numbers look like compared to this 

IMG_1271.jpeg

Posted
2 hours ago, HoosierHoopster said:

No, as USPS pointed out UM has been one of the best teams in the B1G for some time minus the 2 year or so hiccup- it’s apples and oranges between programs. IU will require more time, it is what it is 

That doesn’t equate like it use to in this day of NIL.   Cig showed us that.. not an excuse at an institution like Indiana anymore. 

Posted
28 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Wonder what ius numbers look like compared to this 

IMG_1271.jpeg

This is interesting to see, but it has no relevance today.  
A coach today with IU resources can either identify and sign the right players or they can’t.  
Many can’t.  
I truly am pulling for DD because I do think he has it in him.  

This is a test of all tests and I hope he evolves and rises to the top.

Posted
2 hours ago, Pryght said:

IU (82.6) is ranked #2 in Torvik's Projective Effective Talent ranking, right behind Duke (89.1).  Projected Effective Talent is Torvik’s way of estimating the overall quality of a roster after accounting for more than just recruiting rankings. It factors in things like transfers, returning production, experience, and expected playing time to project how much talent will actually contribute on the court. A team can have highly ranked recruits, but if they are inexperienced or unlikely to play major roles, their effective talent rating may be lower.

https://barttorvik.com/trankpre.php?sort=tal&conlimit=

Torvik.png

How did his index for this year play out?  Was he on to something and can we have some reason for a better season 

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