Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[AH1971]

Just now, IndyHoops said:

So much he transferred….   :)

That's on him

[IndyHoops]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Yeah I think's its crazy to write off Gabe Cupps after 1 year

If IU wasn’t trying to buy a team and was building for the future, you would have a point. Woodson isn’t in the business of developing players like Cupps. One and done? Sure…

[IndyHoops]

Just now, AH1971 said:

That's on him

lol…. Ok…. 

[AH1971]

Just now, IndyHoops said:

If IU wasn’t trying to buy and team and was building for the future, you would have a point. Woodson isn’t in the business of developing players like Cupps. One and done? Sure…

He wouldn't have recruited Cupps if that were the case...

[AH1971]

3 minutes ago, IndyHoops said:

lol…. Ok…. 

This isn't the bash Mike Woodson thread. If you want to do that, take it to the appropriate place. Writing off Gabe Cupps after a single year after being thrusted into a role he wasn't ready for is just silly. 

[ap2345]

26 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

any chance that IU does their due diligence here with Boogie?

Arkansas

[CSP]

5 minutes ago, IndyHoops said:

So much he transferred….   :)

Bro.. he played on a team that went 0-20 in conference play. Tough to paint that as a good decision for Bates. 

[steubenhoosier]

Not to be forgotten, Cupps is a coach's kid.  I can see him developing into a more skilled Leal... being able to get other guys in the right place, coach on the floor type. He also came across as a hard nosed guy.

Every team needs a player like Cupps. Someone who other players respect and listen to. Obviously, as a freshman he hadn't earned his stripes yet. I fully believe Gabe will grow into this kind of role, and we'll be happy he's a Hoosier.

[IndyHoops]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

This isn't the bash Mike Woodson thread. If you want to do that, take it to the appropriate place. Writing off Gabe Cupps after a single year being thrusted into a role he wasn't ready for is just silly. 

Not bashing Woodson, just stating facts. Woodson is buying a team this year. And he is buying players that are better than Cupps. And these players are not coming to IU to sit behind Cupps, including Tucker. Do we agree?

How many mins a game are 2 of Rice, Perkins, Carlyle, Conwell going to play at the 1 and 2? 

[DChoosier]

1 hour ago, Silat Player said:

Come on. We all knew that players like Priller and Gelon weren't division 1 players. LOL

Many, many, many former IU players (from RMK through Woody’s days) never turned into impactful players but your two examples are admittedly two of the biggest head scratchers ever.

When Priller committed I was 99.9% sure he wouldn’t work out, without ever having seen him play, simply because his only other offer was from Incarnate Word. A 6’9” forward from Texas, a state with 13 D1 men’s basketball schools, and his only offers were from IU and Incarnate Word???? LOL.

As bad as Priller was he probably would have made six figures a year in NIL cash at IU.

[IndyHoops]

3 minutes ago, btownqb said:

Bro.. he played on a team that went 0-20 in conference play. Tough to paint that as a good decision for Bates. 

He played how many mins a game? Got off how many 3s a game versus IU? Who by the way missed the NCAA. If his goal was to play more and shoot more, it was the right move.

[RaceToTheTop]

7 minutes ago, IndyHoops said:

So much he transferred….   :)

Bates' offense has gotten better each year.

Bate's defense hasn't.

FWIW, not even all of his offense improved this past season.  He did a good job in turning himself into a guy that scores from multiple spots on the floor, but his assist and turnover rates were both worse than his sophomore year at IU.

[IndyHoops]

3 minutes ago, steubenhoosier said:

Not to be forgotten, Cupps is a coach's kid.  I can see him developing into a more skilled Leal... being able to get other guys in the right place, coach on the floor type. He also came across as a hard nosed guy.

Every team needs a player like Cupps. Someone who other players respect and listen to. Obviously, as a freshman he hadn't earned his stripes yet. I fully believe Gabe will grow into this kind of role, and we'll be happy he's a Hoosier.

Isn’t that Leal? I kid, I kid…

[CSP]

Just now, IndyHoops said:

He played how many mins a game? Got off how many 3s a game versus IU? Who by the way missed the NCAA. If his goal was to play more and shoot more, it was the right move.

That also means he's not someone we need/want/should have on our roster. 

There were also, more important matters, at play for Mr. Bates. 

[ebridges24]

10 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

This isn't the bash Mike Woodson thread. If you want to do that, take it to the appropriate place. Writing off Gabe Cupps after a single year after being thrusted into a role he wasn't ready for is just silly. 

agreed

[IndyHoops]

Just now, btownqb said:

That also means he's not someone we need/want/should have on our roster. 

There were also, more important matters, at play for Mr. Bates. 

Agreed, but that’s not the point. The point was Woodson doesn’t have a history of developing players that aren’t NBA level. And since he is buying a team this year and not focusing on high school kids, that’s probably not his goal next year either. 

[IndyHoops]

2 minutes ago, ebridges24 said:

agreed

How is Cupps isn’t going to play much next year equal to bashing Woodson??? 

[RaceToTheTop]

2 minutes ago, btownqb said:

That also means he's not someone we need/want/should have on our roster. 

There were also, more important matters, at play for Mr. Bates. 

One of the most important things for him seemed to be moving closer to where his daughter lived.  Not every transfer is totally about money or getting more shots.  If he would have stayed, he would have certainly gotten shots at IU.  He asked IU for a lot of NIL in order to come back, but basically I believe he asked for that much because that is what it would have taken for him to not move back near home.  I would be willing to bet that what IU was willing to give him in NIL money is more than he got at Missouri.

[CSP]

3 minutes ago, IndyHoops said:

Agreed, but that’s not the point. The point was Woodson doesn’t have a history of developing players that aren’t NBA level. And since he is buying a team this year and not focusing on high school kids, that’s probably not his goal next year either. 

Ehh.. Malik has improved a ton, so has Trey. 

squashed another myth

[CSP]

1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

One of the most important things for him seemed to be moving closer to where his daughter lived.  Not every transfer is totally about money or getting more shots.  If he would have stayed, he would have certainly gotten shots at IU.  He asked IU for a lot of NIL in order to come back, but basically I believe he asked for that much because that is what it would have taken for him to not move back near home.  I would be willing to bet that what IU was willing to give him in NIL money is more than he got at Missouri.

As a parent of a 4-month-old... I can't imagine being states apart for long stretches of time. It wouldn't have mattered what IU offered me.