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4 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

It's pretty bad when a very medium or less player from a bad Bellarmine team commands a bidding war.  I don't know what we should have done with the backup 5 spot but man the pickings are getting slim and we either strike out or overpay.  

I wish a foreign option was on the list or even a talented freshman from earlier in the signing class that would be willing to wait his turn.  (Purdue has about 4 of them).  

Hes not commanding a bidding war,  just sayin’. Rabby has said it’s literally just trying to find time in his schedule to get him on campus. 

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1 hour ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Hes not commanding a bidding war,  just sayin’. Rabby has said it’s literally just trying to find time in his schedule to get him on campus. 

I’m not saying HE is. I am saying the circumstances of limited supply and hella demand is creating the opportunity for a mid level player to be wanted WAY more than they’re worth.  

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Just now, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I’m not saying HE is. I am saying the circumstances of limited supply and hella demand is creating the opportunity for a mid level player to be wanted WAY more than they’re worth.  

Get where you’re coming from, but end of the day you’re worth what the market says you’re worth.

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1 minute ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Get where you’re coming from, but end of the day you’re worth what the market says you’re worth.

Yep, the individual is and great for them. But the team in need is not in a good place relative to the demand.  People/fans love him. He’s overrated but we need backup size from somewhere. 
 

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5 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Get where you’re coming from, but end of the day you’re worth what the market says you’re worth.

The market in this case is an unstable, growing one due to how much NIL has grown in the past three years.  It’s much easier to predict value in a more stable market.  

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1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Yep, the individual is and great for them. But the team in need is not in a good place relative to the demand.  People/fans love him. He’s overrated but we need backup size from somewhere. 
 

Imo NIL is out of control w/o regulation. It’s the Wild West right now. That’ll benefit the individual players, and the programs with money to burn, but it’s bad for the overall college game as is

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Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

The market in this case is an unstable, growing one due to how much NIL has grown in the past three years.  It’s much easier to predict value in a more stable market.  

Yeah while you were replying to me I was posting immediately above. NIL is out of control 

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I am also saying we are one Ballo injury away from a very limited ceiling as a team. People that think sliding Reneau to the 5 is best isn’t the fix they think.  Doesn’t rebound well.  Doesn’t rim protect well.  Give me an athletic freak that can’t dribble as a backup five. Then run him with 4 guards. New guy is gonna get eaten alive by the athelticism/size of Power 5. 

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2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Yep, the individual is and great for them. But the team in need is not in a good place relative to the demand.  People/fans love him. He’s overrated but we need backup size from somewhere. 
 

‘Overrated’ based on what, though?  Put money aside and he’s a fit for what we are looking for IMO — a backup 4/5 with experience.  
 

we don’t actually even know what kind of NIL deal he commands at this point…it’s all speculation.

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4 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Imo NIL is out of control w/o regulation. It’s the Wild West right now. That’ll benefit the individual players, and the programs with money to burn, but it’s bad for the overall college game as is

But it also hurts other individual players and REALLY hurts high school recruits.  There are winners and losers here outside of the money aspect.

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2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I am also saying we are one Ballo injury away from a very limited ceiling as a team. People that think sliding Reneau to the 5 is best isn’t the fix they think.  Doesn’t rebound well.  Doesn’t rim protect well.  Give me an athletic freak that can’t dribble as a backup five. Then run him with 4 guards. New guy is gonna get eaten alive by the athelticism/size of Power 5. 

And I’ll take skilled guys as a backup over athletic ones without skills.  I’ve seen enough Hanner Peres’s in my lifetime.

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2 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

‘Overrated’ based on what, though?  Put money aside and he’s a fit for what we are looking for IMO — a backup 4/5 with experience.  
 

we don’t actually even know what kind of NIL deal he commands at this point…it’s all speculation.

Based on watching him play versus what the fans think he is.  And translating that to the big leagues.  I don’t care what the NIL deal is.  The fact this guy is getting paid anything this off-season shows where NIL is and how much teams need bigs. 

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1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Based on watching him play versus what the fans think he is.  And translating that to the big leagues.  I don’t care what the NIL deal is.  The fact this guy is getting paid anything this off-season shows where NIL is and how much teams need bigs. 

I would say your memory of guys who filled out the rosters of teams pre-NIL days isn’t reflective of what those players abilities were.

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10 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

And I’ll take skilled guys as a backup over athletic ones without skills.  I’ve seen enough Hanner Peres’s in my lifetime.

Not every athletic big is Perea.  You’d rather have this dude over Onyensu from Kentucky or something similar?  Or Somto Cyril?  Or some guy like that.  Or Fidunga off the bench like KU will have. It’s going to be a weak spot in this team this year.  Give me an athletic freak over a limited guy that isn’t athletic enough to compete in the first place like Sparks. 

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1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I would say your memory of guys who filled out the rosters of teams pre-NIL days isn’t reflective of what those players abilities were.

I don’t even know what this sentence means. It’s usually freshman BiGs on the bench. Sometimes you get an Edey sometimes you get a Logan Duncomb.  Also this isn’t pre-Nil so this argument has no relation.  But I’d rather have Bidunga on the bench if that’s my option. Or a Xavier Booker even.  

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23 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Not every athletic big is Perea.  You’d rather have this dude over Onyensu from Kentucky or something similar?  Or Somto Cyril?  Or some guy like that.  Or Fidunga off the bench like KU will have. It’s going to be a weak spot in this team this year.  Give me an athletic freak over a limited guy that isn’t athletic enough to compete in the first place like Sparks. 

Lol Kory Fidunga 

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