RaceToTheTop Posted March 1, 2024 Posted March 1, 2024 Which team? Team A: 17-12 NET 40, POM 32 POM NON-CON SOS 162, OVERALL 11 Q1: 3-9, Q2: 6-2, Q3: 3-1, Q4: 5-0 Team B: 21-8 NET 46, POM 64 POM NON-CON SOS 239, OVERALL 79 Q1: 3-4, Q2: 4-4, Q3: 8-0, Q4: 6-0 Team C: 19-9 NET 42, POM 40 POM NON-CON 325, OVERALL 60 Q1: 4-7, Q2: 3-2, Q3: 4-0, Q4: 8-0 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 1, 2024 Author Posted March 1, 2024 28 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said: Which team? Team A: 17-12 NET 40, POM 32 POM NON-CON SOS 162, OVERALL 11 Q1: 3-9, Q2: 6-2, Q3: 3-1, Q4: 5-0 Team B: 21-8 NET 46, POM 64 POM NON-CON SOS 239, OVERALL 79 Q1: 3-4, Q2: 4-4, Q3: 8-0, Q4: 6-0 Team C: 19-9 NET 42, POM 40 POM NON-CON 325, OVERALL 60 Q1: 4-7, Q2: 3-2, Q3: 4-0, Q4: 8-0 What’s their NET sos and non con sos and how many Q1 wins are Q1a? Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 1, 2024 Posted March 1, 2024 42 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: What’s their NET sos and non con sos and how many Q1 wins are Q1a? Team A: NET SOS 12, NET NON-CON SOS 181. 2 of the 3 Q1 wins are Q1a. Team B: NET SOS 84, NET NON-CON SOS 190. 1 of the 3 Q1 wins are Q1a. Team C: NET SOS 37, NET NON-CON SOS 281. 2 of the 4 Q1 wins are Q1a. Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 1, 2024 Author Posted March 1, 2024 4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said: Team A: NET SOS 12, NET NON-CON SOS 181. 2 of the 3 Q1 wins are Q1a. Team B: NET SOS 84, NET NON-CON SOS 190. 1 of the 3 Q1 wins are Q1a. Team C: NET SOS 37, NET NON-CON SOS 281. 2 of the 4 Q1 wins are Q1a. C for sure Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 1, 2024 Posted March 1, 2024 1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said: C for sure I know you well enough to know you know which team is which but also know you are giving an unbiased opinion of those three resumes. What about A v B? Uspshoosier 1 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 1, 2024 Author Posted March 1, 2024 3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said: I know you well enough to know you know which team is which but also know you are giving an unbiased opinion of those three resumes. What about A v B? A lot closer between those 2 teams than I would have thought before I compared the 2. The Michigan loss at home for St John’s sticks out for me so I would still take Virginia as if today but man they are closer to the cut line for me now then I would of first thought. Some have them safely in and St John’s still next 4 out. Bubble is starting to become a mess with them bottom teams losing. Nicely done on picking some close blind resumes RaceToTheTop 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 1, 2024 Posted March 1, 2024 1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said: A lot closer between those 2 teams than I would have thought before I compared the 2. The Michigan loss at home for St John’s sticks out for me so I would still take Virginia as if today but man they are closer to the cut line for me now then I would of first thought. Some have them safely in and St John’s still next 4 out. Bubble is starting to become a mess with them bottom teams losing. Nicely done on picking some close blind resumes St.John’s last two regular season games are DePaul and Georgetown. Despite those being quad 3 or 4 games, assuming they win I would think they are more in need of bumping up the win total than their SOS. May 19-12 with a NET of about 40 I would think they could bump themselves up to last 4 in. Would still want more security, though, from bid stealers. Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 1, 2024 Author Posted March 1, 2024 6 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said: St.John’s last two regular season games are DePaul and Georgetown. Despite those being quad 3 or 4 games, assuming they win I would think they are more in need of bumping up the win total than their SOS. May 19-12 with a NET of about 40 I would think they could bump themselves up to last 4 in. Would still want more security, though, from bid stealers. They need Nova to finish strong. They only have 1 win against solid tourney team. Creighton at home. They swept Nova. Utah and Providence are bubble teams so good wins to have but they could possibly only have 1 win against a tourney team heading into the big east tourney. Plus they lost to Michigan at home. Definitely bubble worthy RaceToTheTop 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 1, 2024 Posted March 1, 2024 23 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: They need Nova to finish strong. They only have 1 win against solid tourney team. Creighton at home. They swept Nova. Utah and Providence are bubble teams so good wins to have but they could possibly only have 1 win against a tourney team heading into the big east tourney. Plus they lost to Michigan at home. Definitely bubble worthy What’s funny is they could use Nova finishing well to help their resume but Nova could be a team they are fighting with for a spot. Uspshoosier 1 Quote
realTomCrean Posted March 3, 2024 Posted March 3, 2024 If IU wins out + 2 in BTT puts them at 20-13 before the championship. Is that good enough to get them in? Quote
Jeff Flabjohns Posted March 3, 2024 Posted March 3, 2024 1 minute ago, realTomCrean said: If IU wins out + 2 in BTT puts them at 20-13 before the championship. Is that good enough to get them in? Win the BTT or head to the NIT. No doubt in my mind realTomCrean 1 Quote
Jeff Flabjohns Posted March 3, 2024 Posted March 3, 2024 But they win these last two and we’re likely the 6 seed in BTT. What an awful conference lol realTomCrean and OliviaPope40 2 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 3, 2024 Author Posted March 3, 2024 22 minutes ago, realTomCrean said: If IU wins out + 2 in BTT puts them at 20-13 before the championship. Is that good enough to get them in? No Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 3, 2024 Author Posted March 3, 2024 23 minutes ago, realTomCrean said: If IU wins out + 2 in BTT puts them at 20-13 before the championship. Is that good enough to get them in? Metrics are too bad at this point in the season and not enough games to build them up to where they will need to be. Also the 20 wins only 2 or 3 would be against other tourney teams. Losing at home to Nebraska and Northwestern were the nail in IUs at large coffin Class of '66 Old Fart, WayneFleekHoosier, Demo and 2 others 4 1 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 4, 2024 Posted March 4, 2024 3 hours ago, Uspshoosier said: Metrics are too bad at this point in the season and not enough games to build them up to where they will need to be. Also the 20 wins only 2 or 3 would be against other tourney teams. Losing at home to Nebraska and Northwestern were the nail in IUs at large coffin What's funny is that IU won two games this week that were quad one wins, but by the end of the season they may not be quad one wins because those teams lost to IU. Wisky is currently at 22 and Maryland was at 70 entering today. If Wisky drops to 26+ and Maryland to 76+, neither are quad one wins. LIHoosier 1 Quote
NashvilleHoosier Posted March 4, 2024 Posted March 4, 2024 PSU, NW and Nebraska at home. Crazy to think if we just win those 3 AT HOME (how many seasons have we considered those a given?) we’re 19-10, in 3rd place in the B1G at 11-7 and probably on the right side of the bubble? WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 4, 2024 Author Posted March 4, 2024 7 hours ago, Uspshoosier said: Metrics are too bad at this point in the season and not enough games to build them up to where they will need to be. Also the 20 wins only 2 or 3 would be against other tourney teams. Losing at home to Nebraska and Northwestern were the nail in IUs at large coffin Example IU was 104 and won a Q1 game at Maryland and only moved to 101 in the NET. Maryland went from 70 to 74 Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 4, 2024 Posted March 4, 2024 14 hours ago, DoctorP said: Win the BTT or head to the NIT. No doubt in my mind The NIT will start by taking the top two NET teams from each of the top six conferences. IU will assuredly not be in that group because of how much they would need to make up in NET. Don’t assume IU will make the NIT. Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 4, 2024 Posted March 4, 2024 WAR top 25 through Sunday's games Purdue 26-3 WAR +10.58 Houston 26-3 +9.79 U Conn 26-3 +8.80 Tennessee 23-6 +7.09 Arizona 23-6 +7.00 UNC 23-6 +6.49 South Carolina 24-5 +5.84 Iowa State 23-6 +5.75 Illinois 22-7 +5.44 Duke 23-6 +5.26 Baylor 20-8 +5.23 Alabama 20-9 +5.21 Marquette 22-7 +5.18 Kansas 20-8 +5.05 Utah State 22-5 +5.03 Auburn 22-7 +5.02 Creighton 22-8 +4.90 San Diego State 20-7 +4.54 Washington State 23-7 +4.06 Dayton 22-6 +4.03 Nevada 23-6 +3.76 Kentucky 21-8 +3.72 BYU 21-8 +3.64 Clemson 20-9 +3.46 Florida 20-9 +3.28 Close: Texas Tech 20-9 +3.27, Indiana State 25-5 +3.27, Nebraska 21-9 +3.10, Virginia 21-9 +2.97, Gonzaga 23-6 +2.89 Multiple bid conferences: Big 12 (9): Houston (2), Iowa State (8), Baylor (11), Kansas (14), BYU (23), Texas Tech (26), Texas (36), Oklahoma (41), TCU (49) SEC (8): Tennessee (4), South Carolina (7), Alabama (12), Auburn (16), Kentucky (22), Florida (25), Mississippi (32), Mississippi State (43) MWC (6): Utah State (15), San Diego State (18), Nevada (21),Boise State (37), Colorado State (38), New Mexico (47) Big 10 (5): Purdue (1), Illinois (9), Nebraska (28), Northwestern (31), Wisconsin (35) ACC (4): UNC (6), Duke (10), Clemson (24), Virginia (29) Big East (3): U Conn (3), Marquette (13), Creighton (17) C USA (3): Florida Atlantic (33), Memphis (48), South Florida (50) MVC (2): Indiana State (27), Drake (39) WCC (2): Gonzaga (30), St. Mary's (44) Last four byes: Syracuse, Mississippi St, St. Mary's, Colorado Last four in: New Mexico, Memphis, TCU, South Florida First four out: Seton Hall, Utah, Iowa, Oregon Next four out: Michigan State, Richmond, Providence, St. John's IUHoosierJoe 1 Quote
IUHoosierJoe Posted March 4, 2024 Posted March 4, 2024 Computer rankings through 3/3/24 games: 1 Houston 26 - 3 ( 1 ) 2 Purdue 26 - 3 ( 2 ) 3 Arizona 23 - 6 ( 3 ) 4 Connecticut 26 - 3 ( 4 ) 5 Tennessee 23 - 6 ( 5 ) 6 Alabama 20 - 9 ( 6 ) 7 Auburn 22 - 7 ( 7 ) 8 Iowa St 23 - 6 ( 9 ) 9 North Carolina 23 - 6 ( 8 ) 10 Duke 23 - 6 ( 11 ) 11 Baylor 20 - 8 ( 16 ) 12 Creighton 22 - 8 ( 15 ) 13 Marquette 22 - 7 ( 10 ) 14 Illinois 22 - 7 ( 13 ) 15 BYU 21 - 8 ( 17 ) 16 San Diego St 20 - 7 ( 14 ) 17 Kansas 20 - 8 ( 12 ) 18 Gonzaga 23 - 6 ( 25 ) 19 Kentucky 21 - 8 ( 20 ) 20 New Mexico 20 - 8 ( 18 ) 21 Utah St 22 - 5 ( 19 ) 22 St Mary's CA 23 - 7 ( 23 ) 23 Dayton 22 - 6 ( 22 ) 24 Clemson 20 - 9 ( 21 ) 25 Boise St 19 - 8 ( 38 ) Quote
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