WayneFleekHoosier Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 What USPS said and it’s not even close if it’s a talent thing.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appNot true, On top end talent. Talent across the board from 1-13? Absolutely. Pick 3 on Kansas to go against Garland (13), Shittu (6), and Romeo (5)Preston (20) will leave or won't qualify. Lawson (26), Newman (8), Azubuike (33), Grimes (12)?Based on the numbers Vandy could boast a higher rated top 3 than Kansas. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Ajwhitis Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 It's incredible how a fan base can be so high a team and their progress one day then turn around and talk about how we're in a 5 year rebuild. CHILL OUTTTT. HooHooHoo22, ALASKA HOOSIER and cljones1979 3 Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 It's incredible how a fan base can be so high a team and their progress one day then turn around and talk about how we're in a 5 year rebuild. CHILL OUTTTT.3year. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app HoosierAloha 1 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 Not true, On top end talent. Talent across the board from 1-13? Absolutely. Pick 3 on Kansas to go against Garland (13), Shittu (6), and Romeo (5) Preston (20) will leave or won't qualify. Lawson (26), Newman (8), Azubuike (33), Grimes (12)? Based on the numbers Vandy could boast a higher rated top 3 than Kansas. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile appRomeo ,grimes, and Newman would be who I would pick for Kansas if I was just going by the number beside their name. 5,8,12 is close to 5,6,13. But from watching most of these kids play the players are not that far apart. It might be close but I would take Kansas top 3 of Romeo, grimes and a junior Lawson that is redshirted and learning selfs system over Romeo, Garland and Shittu Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Ajwhitis Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said: 3year. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app People overreact to 1 bad game. If we come out and blow Iowa out people will be ecstatic but lose to a top half big ten team on the road and everyone loses their damn minds. scots07 1 Quote
Bailey7878 Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 It's incredible how a fan base can be so high a team and their progress one day then turn around and talk about how we're in a 5 year rebuild. CHILL OUTTTT.5 years to be elite or challenge for a final 4 yes. It will take 5 years.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
HoosierAloha Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 Not true, On top end talent. Talent across the board from 1-13? Absolutely. Pick 3 on Kansas to go against Garland (13), Shittu (6), and Romeo (5)Preston (20) will leave or won't qualify. Lawson (26), Newman (8), Azubuike (33), Grimes (12)?Based on the numbers Vandy could boast a higher rated top 3 than Kansas. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile appKU would have experience and the guarantee from the Big 12 of a championship giving them a better seed. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 Romeo ,grimes, and Newman would be who I would pick for Kansas if I was just going by the number beside their name. 5,8,12 is close to 5,6,13. But from watching most of these kids play the players are not that far apart. It might be close but I would take Kansas top 3 of Romeo, grimes and a sophomore Lawson that is redshirted and learning selfs system over Romeo, Garland and Shittu Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appAgree. Just saying Vandy would have equivalent top end or slightly better ranking wise. That's all. IU, not even close. Romeo (5), DeRon (40), and Hunter(50ish)Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 17 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said: I guess we've been patient 30 years so what's another 5 I guess. I really thought this team would be better though. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk I don't think it will take anywhere near five years. Archie has a very solid foundational class this year. With Race/Phinisee/Hunter/Anderson/Forrester we have five guys who should be solid 3-4 year players. We also have the guys on the team this year who will be back next year. We are in on several 5 stars in the 2019 class. I would bet that we get two 5 stars in that class. Next year we should make the tournament, and the year after that we should be a Big 10 and national contender. Quote
HoosierAloha Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 5 years? After this game I was thinking 10. If we beat Iowa it will be 2-3..Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners southsidehoosier, mookied39, Bailey7878 and 1 other 3 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 Not true, On top end talent. Talent across the board from 1-13? Absolutely. Pick 3 on Kansas to go against Garland (13), Shittu (6), and Romeo (5)Preston (20) will leave or won't qualify. Lawson (26), Newman (8), Azubuike (33), Grimes (12)?Based on the numbers Vandy could boast a higher rated top 3 than Kansas. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile appIts not 3 on 3. That’s why it isn’t close. Unless those 3 can play 1-5 as true Freshman which thy cant and they will struggle can’t match what Kansas can for 200 minutes 1-5 provide. No matter which team he goes to he will be the alpha on the offensive end since Graham is a Senior at Kansas. I would put our team of role players against Garland and Shittu as Freshman as giving him a better chance at winning. If he goes to Vandy it will be much like LSU with Simmons and Romeo is no Simmons. You have to have role players. He would get the best at Kansas. Hands down if that is the biggest thing. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
cappymo14 Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 5 years to be elite or challenge for a final 4 yes. It will take 5 years.Sent from my SM-J700T using TapatalkI think looking at what’s coming in, returning players, and some potential 5 stars in 2019, IU can be back competing for conference titles and Sweet 16+ in 2 years. 2019-2020Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 Agree. Just saying Vandy would have equivalent top end or slightly better ranking wise. That's all. IU, not even close. Romeo (5), DeRon (40), and Hunter(50ish)Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile appwhich coach you trust the most to least to get the most out of that top end talent? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
dbmhoosier Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 Just now, Uspshoosier said: which coach you trust the most to least to get the most out of that top end talent? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Gregg Marshall. Quote
Uspshoosier Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 Gregg Marshall. How many top 5 kids has he coached in his career? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted December 2, 2017 Posted December 2, 2017 which coach you trust the most to least to get the most out of that top end talent? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appHonestly I don't know. Archie isn't performing any magic with our current team and we aren't devoid of talent. Drew, who knows as well. Self probably has the most trustworthy resume but he always is loaded with talent. Archie hasn't proven he can compete at a high major level. Same for Drew. I believe Archie can. But factually, there is no evidence. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted December 3, 2017 Posted December 3, 2017 I think looking at what’s coming in, returning players, and some potential 5 stars in 2019, IU can be back competing for conference titles and Sweet 16+ in 2 years. 2019-2020Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appYes, we could if we actually land some of those guys and we get the new blood playing Archie ball. Time will tell. We always feel good about recruiting a year in advance. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app cappymo14, mookied39 and pumpfake 2 1 Quote
323SGrant Posted December 3, 2017 Posted December 3, 2017 How many top 5 kids has he coached in his career? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appHopefully they can improve the defense to be more consistent. Quote
Uspshoosier Posted December 3, 2017 Posted December 3, 2017 Honestly I don't know. Archie isn't performing any magic with our current team and we aren't devoid of talent. Drew, who knows as well. Self probably has the most trustworthy resume but he always is loaded with talent. Archie hasn't proven he can compete at a high major level. Same for Drew. I believe Archie can. But factually, there is no evidence. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile appSelf, CAM, Drew for me. 2 of the 3 have proven in years past that their system can win in the NCAA tournament. Still to early though to make a judgement on drew and Miller. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app WayneFleekHoosier 1 Quote
Bailey7878 Posted December 3, 2017 Posted December 3, 2017 Yes, we could if we actually land some of those guys and we get the new blood playing Archie ball. Time will tell. We always feel good about recruiting a year in advance. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile appYep. Hopefully Archie will get it done but honestly we just don't know yet. He is still in the honeymoon stage. The same one crean got for three plus years. Everyone always thinks the coach will get it done when they first come. Hopefully this coach can. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
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