Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[Stuhoo]

 

Y'all understand that this will be by far the most talented collection of players that Archie will have ever worked with, yes?

 

 

[VO5]

34 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Now, it feels less like a "collection of talent" and more like a team.

 

 

Less guys worried about the NBA and more out to prove themselves. I think that's the type of team Archie excels with. I'm excited for the upcoming year

[Aaron]

I don't mean to get on "Brass Cannon" at all as I like him as a poster but he still has not updated the chart in his original post to reflect Bryant and JBJ's departure. Understandable with JBJ since it happened this morning but I would of thought Bryant would be updated in the chart by now.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

If we work through the post we will be fine. We have guys in the gym making that jump as we speak. We just don't have a player going to make contested 3's. Hopefully we don't have to anymore. I actually like our team and it's potential. It is just going to have to start at the defensive end.


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This all day long. I don't see the gloom and Doom next yr. Will we be top 4? Probably not. But I think better than our finish this yr.

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[recker222000]

I wish these guys well, I genuinely do, but it really explains in part, why our season was such a disaster.

I think all 3 have a shot at the NBA if things go bounce their way. I could see all 3 flame out too. Neither would surprise me. All 3 easily have the potential to play professionally even if it's not the NBA.

Bottom line, winning games at IU wasn't the #1 focus of our best guys.


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You got it.

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[Aaron]

I believe Blackmon was content to get out of IU hell or high water even if it means playing in Europe or D-league (I'm not criticizing him just making an observation). In end we get exact same roster Crean would of had in Archie's first year.

All scholarships now accounted for next year and days of roster crunches, over signings and allegedly forcing people out are gone for good!

[Aaron]

Kind of unrelated to this thread but Zeller's excellent character clearly shows again to come back to IU and finish degree and graduate. Not many people in Zeller's position do that given his relative NBA success and shows what a high class individual he is and how much he was raised right and values his education.

Again shows between him, Hulls, Oladipo, Watford and Elston how strong leadership was on that team and why it was so successful. Than it all got away from Crean and why he is gone now.

[Hoosier Guy]

Probably not this year. Better? Yes. Good? I am not holding my breath for it. 

They'll be a top 4 team in the B1G and make the NCAA tournament. I'll take that for the first year


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[Bowhunter]

Crean couldn't make the tournament with 3 NBA players on his roster.

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[Yogi's Picnic Basket]

Haven't been on here much lately, but the JBJ news was expected. I was at open gym in Marion the other day and during Summer the Blackmons along with Zach Randolph always hold an event for the community, so the talk was JBJ felt like he didn't have a choice. The scholarship numbers hurt him and TB. Not saying Archie forced either of them, but once all 3 commits came back in the fold, this was the expected outcome, specially when Hartman decided to play another year.

Point being is, let's not attack a kid who has been through as much as he has. The injuries alone would have been enough to make a kid question whether to play the game anymore, but JBJ always came back and never gave up. He is also a month away from actually graduating in 3 years. He never got in trouble off the court and always represented us well on it. His defense wasn't the greatest, but it was fun to watch him on offense. The critics who questioned his defense also never took in consideration what ACL injury(s) do to lateral quickness.

His prospects of playing in the NBA aren't the greatest, but his ability to score will put him on someones radar and once he is, it will be up to him to make the most of it. Whether it is the D League or Euro, he made this decision because he believes in himself and I can't fault him for that. I hope he finds a way on a NBA bench and so should any IU fan. Like I said at the beginning of this, someone was gonna have to go and none of us know what happened behind the scenes, but at least now we know who will be here next year and who won't. I expect RoJo to announce soon he is coming back.

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[Hoosierfan2017]

37 minutes ago, Bowhunter said:

Crean couldn't make the tournament with 3 NBA players on his roster.

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To be fair to Crean, OG is probably the only real NBA player in that trio, and he was out for most of the Big 10 season.

[Brass Cannon]

38 minutes ago, Bowhunter said:

Crean couldn't make the tournament with 3 NBA players on his roster.

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To be fair I think you mean 1 NBA player and 2 d leaguers 

[Aaron]

9 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

To be fair I think you mean 1 NBA player and 2 d leaguers 

I actually think its more like 1 nba player, 1 potential nba player and 1 d leaguer. Also can you please update your chart to reflect Bryant and JBJ's departure in your original post to start this thread?

[bigrod]

They'll be a top 4 team in the B1G and make the NCAA tournament. I'll take that for the first year


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I agree with this. I don't see us in the race for the B1G, but I don't think we'll be on the bubble either. Heck, maybe we actually have a good showing in the B1G tournament! That would be something new...


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[recker222000]

I believe Blackmon was content to get out of IU hell or high water even if it means playing in Europe or D-league (I'm not criticizing him just making an observation). In end we get exact same roster Crean would of had in Archie's first year.
All scholarships now accounted for next year and days of roster crunches, over signings and allegedly forcing people out are gone for good!

Agreed i am totally fine with this. Crean was the perfect coach for him because he could jack up shots at will and there was no accountability for anything. I doubt he wanted to buy into Miller's team concept game at all.

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[recker222000]

Haven't been on here much lately, but the JBJ news was expected. I was at open gym in Marion the other day and during Summer the Blackmons along with Zach Randolph always hold an event for the community, so the talk was JBJ felt like he didn't have a choice. The scholarship numbers hurt him and TB. Not saying Archie forced either of them, but once all 3 commits came back in the fold, this was the expected outcome, specially when Hartman decided to play another year.

Point being is, let's not attack a kid who has been through as much as he has. The injuries alone would have been enough to make a kid question whether to play the game anymore, but JBJ always came back and never gave up. He is also a month away from actually graduating in 3 years. He never got in trouble off the court and always represented us well on it. His defense wasn't the greatest, but it was fun to watch him on offense. The critics who questioned his defense also never took in consideration what ACL injury(s) do to lateral quickness.

His prospects of playing in the NBA aren't the greatest, but his ability to score will put him on someones radar and once he is, it will be up to him to make the most of it. Whether it is the D League or Euro, he made this decision because he believes in himself and I can't fault him for that. I hope he finds a way on a NBA bench and so should any IU fan. Like I said at the beginning of this, someone was gonna have to go and none of us know what happened behind the scenes, but at least now we know who will be here next year and who won't. I expect RoJo to announce soon he is coming back.

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How did the scholorship numbers hurt him? He had a spot on the team.

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[recker222000]

To be fair to Crean, OG is probably the only real NBA player in that trio, and he was out for most of the Big 10 season.

Agreed. The other two are d league players which begs the question when you make money 25 k what does your agent get two grand?

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[recker222000]

This all day long. I don't see the gloom and Doom next yr. Will we be top 4? Probably not. But I think better than our finish this yr.

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I think we make the tourney.

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[BtownBanner6]

Will be impressed if we finish top 4 in the BIG, my prediction is 6th in the BIG and a 10 seed in the tourney.

[Hoosierfan2017]

11 minutes ago, recker222000 said:

Agreed. The other two are d league players which begs the question when you make money 25 k what does your agent get two grand?

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Not sure. They get a percentage of the player's salary but I think the number varies from player to player.