TOM CREAN FIRED

[recker222000 1,010]

Deflections? You want deflections? Have I got deflections:

Luke Fischer
Remy Abell
Austin Etherington
Johnny Marlin
Max Hoetzel
Mo Creek
Ron Patterson
Malik Story

Lol no kidding. You forgot the vaunted peter jurkin and

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[recker222000 1,010]

Deflections? You want deflections? Have I got deflections:

Luke Fischer
Remy Abell
Austin Etherington
Johnny Marlin
Max Hoetzel
Mo Creek
Ron Patterson
Malik Story

You forgot matt roth and the vaunted peter jurkin and even more vaunted Bawa Muniru. Those two diamond in the rough big men!!!!

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[AZ Hoosier 11,312]

5 minutes ago, recker222000 said:

Lol no kidding. You forgot the vaunted peter jurkin and

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Well. there were others - plenty of others:

Jurkin, Muniru, April, Robinson, Roth, Hollowell, Davis, Hanner, Holt, Capobianco, Williams and probably more. Of course some were dismissed because of drinking/drugs/arrests, but you get the point.

[JSHoosier 22,344]

17 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Unfortunately, I think the "line in the sand" was crossed several years ago with the drugs/drinking/partying/arrests thing happened. Crean survived that, and, sadly, may survive again. The fire/extend decision may be the only thing that makes his departure even a question. IU hoops IS mediocre, and will remain so with Clappy at the helm.

I thought it was crossed as well.  Even if people don't, there still needs to be a line.  Since there seems to be an agreement that Crean isn't good enough, at some point we have to say enough is enough.

[recker222000 1,010]

Well. there were others - plenty of others:

Jurkin, Muniru, April, Robinson, Roth, Hollowell, Davis, Hanner, Holt, Capobianco, Williams and probably more. Of course some were dismissed because of drinking/drugs/arrests, but you get the point.

April is another diamond in the rough big. Man how does he find these guys! April sits in the bench at wabash college and jurkin averages 2 a game at east Tennessee state.

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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Deflections? You want deflections? Have I got deflections:

Luke Fischer

Remy Abell

Austin Etherington

Johnny Marlin

Max Hoetzel

Mo Creek

Ron Patterson

Malik Story

I see two maybe three that could have helped the team...

In a world with many valid arguments against Crean, the transfer argument has always been the most irrelevant.

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[reconmkd 4,786]

9 minutes ago, recker222000 said:

April is another diamond in the rough big. Man how does he find these guys! April sits in the bench at wabash college and jurkin averages 2 a game at east Tennessee state.

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Nothing like wasting a scholly on a project that never gets worked with! Hey, You're 7ft tall ever touched a basketball? No, that's ok I have a scholarship to waste!

[Brass Cannon 26,207]

10 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

I see two maybe three that could have helped the team...

In a world with many valid arguments against Crean, the transfer argument has always been the most irrelevant.

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I think the issue is more why did they even get a scholarship. Not we let good players leave. 

[recker222000 1,010]

I think the issue is more why did they even get a scholarship. Not we let good players leave. 

You got it. If they cant even play at a lower level Division one school it boogles the mind. A couple of those guys were such stiffs I wonder if they could of even started on a Division II school.

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[Stuhoo 92,324]

 

Given that we all pretty much agree that currently the CTC era is NOT going well;

 

[WayneFleekHoosier 52,117]

You got it. If they cant even play at a lower level Division one school it boogles the mind. A couple of those guys were such stiffs I wonder if they could of even started on a Division II school.

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We will be adding Grant Gelon and Priller to the list soon enough.




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[recker222000 1,010]

We will be adding Grant Gelon and Priller to the list soon enough.




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Per crean they are both lights out from deep!!!!

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[MikeRoberts 7,998]

I see two maybe three that could have helped the team...

In a world with many valid arguments against Crean, the transfer argument has always been the most irrelevant.

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Could not disagree more. His time at Marquette and Indiana has been marred by transfers. A transfer means there is not a good fit. Sometimes Crean comes to that conclusion and sometimes the player does and sometimes it's mutual. His shotgun approach to recruiting, promises, conduct, poorly constructed teams etc all play a part in kids leaving whether they want to or not.

Rarely do you have a kid transfer with a smile on his face and all the friends, family, AAU coaches, high school coaches all feeling great about the situation. In many cases they feel disappointed, angry, mislead. This sentiment permeates throughout the state and impacts relationships and recruiting.

It is a huge black eye on Crean and subsequently IU. It's damaging

[AZ Hoosier 11,312]

45 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

I see two maybe three that could have helped the team...

In a world with many valid arguments against Crean, the transfer argument has always been the most irrelevant.

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I did not post any of this as an indictment of Crean on the transfer thing... it was a play on the "deflections" comment...

A lot of coaches (most coaches) experience transfers, and it's not a negative thing, per se... but there is the issue of "Creaning" where Clappy brings in a body who has no hope of contributing to the team or the end result, just to avoid having an open scholly. And then subsequently sending said player packing in search of a new home. THAT speaks more about his character than is coaching (in)abilities.

April could easily be the poster child for this behavior. No way he was going to help IU - he's not even playing at tiny Wabash College, a D-3 school.

[Trish 14,538]

We will be adding Grant Gelon and Priller to the list soon enough.




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Yes! Might I even throw in Josh? He's not a basketball player. Priller and Gelon are walk on material.


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[TheWatShot 15,849]

31 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

We will be adding Grant Gelon and Priller to the list soon enough.




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Gelon I could see, but please not Priller. His senior night speech and the crowd reaction would probably be epic. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 52,117]

Gelon I could see, but please not Priller. His senior night speech and the crowd reaction would probably be epic. 

I predict Priller participates this year for Senior night. Don't know though.


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[recker222000 1,010]

I predict Priller participates this year for Senior night. Don't know though.


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My guess is clappy has already told him he is being creaned. Its becoming clear why no in state recruits want to play for the clapster.

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[lucel15 3,052]

Dakich had some good points just now about this current team and what he believes their mindset is.


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[recker222000 1,010]

I did not post any of this as an indictment of Crean on the transfer thing... it was a play on the "deflections" comment...

A lot of coaches (most coaches) experience transfers, and it's not a negative thing, per se... but there is the issue of "Creaning" where Clappy brings in a body who has no hope of contributing to the team or the end result, just to avoid having an open scholly. And then subsequently sending said player packing in search of a new home. THAT speaks more about his character than is coaching (in)abilities.

April could easily be the poster child for this behavior. No way he was going to help IU - he's not even playing at tiny Wabash College, a D-3 school.

I did not realize its a d III school. He gets like one minute in blow out wins as a 7 footer. We pay 3.5 million a year for this genious recruiting.

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