One and dones

[jdailey1981 155]

We know the face of basketball has changed since the days of Bob Knight, and is not the same as the glory days of old IU, but a questions once asked to me was, would I be opposed to one and dones if it meant we were hanging banners?

 

I will ask you the same, would you be opposed to one and dones if IU were hanging banners?

 

My answer is yes and no.

 

I would say yes, as long as the program was run clean, and not by known cheaters like Calipari.

 

No, in the sense that I don't want IU to be a school seen as a fast lane for players to quick go pro.

[Hovadipo 56,498]

My answer to the question of this thread is I don't care what types of players we get as long as there is consistency.

But the real question is:

Will this thread make it past 800 pages too?

[jdailey1981 155]

My answer to the question of this thread is I don't care what types of players we get as long as there is consistency.

But the real question is:

Will this thread make it past 800 pages too?

I doubt it. I never thought my Fire Tom Crean post would either.

[IU Hoosier41 14,465]

I have always said the best teams are teams that are junior and senior led with 1 stud freshman (potential one and done). I'd love to have one of those players each year with the rest 3/4 year guys.


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[hsrtxp 1,400]

Personally I don't like one and dones. I would much rather get a team that's been together for 2,3,4 years than a constant rotation of new players every year. I don't want IU to be a basketball factory and I think that mentality leads to a slippery slope in recruiting. Now, an occasional one and done, sure that's fine but I don't want a program based on them. For me I think it all goes back to playing FOR Indiana or playing AT Indiana. I'm not sure one and dones play for anyone other than themselves.


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[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

The problem is the NCAA should make it where you have to be in college for three years in order to then be eligible for the NBA draft. College football and college baseball have that rule so I don't see why college basketball doesn't

[Alford Bailey 12,393]

Things have changed so much I wouldnt have a problem with it. Hard to build a junior senior laden team now days the way kids transfer or get forced out anyway.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,501]

One and dones are VERY hard to come by. If you recruit multiple players with one and done type potential many will end up staying and you'll likely be good year after year. You want the best talent you can get with the caveat you can manage the chemistry.

UK is about the only school with wholesale changes.


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[KingPG21 6,587]

30 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

The problem is the NCAA should make it where you have to be in college for three years in order to then be eligible for the NBA draft. College football and college baseball have that rule so I don't see why college basketball doesn't

Because it is a bad rule for college basketball. 

[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

3 minutes ago, KingPG21 said:

Because it is a bad rule for college basketball. 

I don't see how it would be

[KingPG21 6,587]

1 minute ago, Hoosier Guy said:

I don't see how it would be

I don't get why it would be good at all. Makes a bunch of kids that don't want to be in college go for three years. 

 

I mean its whatever. Neither one of us is going to change the others mind,,,,,, so I mean agree to disagree. Just think the only/main beneficiaries of it are the NCAA

[Free Jurkin! 1,507]

I'd like to see the rule where guys can go out of HS, but if they go to college, they have to stay 2-3 years. 

I'm torn on the idea of getting a bunch of one and dones. I live in Louisville, and the UK fans obviously don't have a problem with the cycle that Cal has going at UK. But as a fan, I think I would prefer to have more guys that stick around 3-4 years. Part of what made last year's run so fun was that we had watched Yogi for so long and felt more of a connection to the team than we would have if it was a bunch of freshman that we knew were about to leave.

[SteelerHoosier 2,586]

Whatever hangs banners within the rules. I don't care. Whether that is with 4 year guys or 1 year guys means very little to me

[Hoosierfan2017 21,564]

I don't think you're going to consistently compete at a high level without one-and-done talent these days. I don't want us slipping these kids envelopes of Benjamins under the table, but I want us to land some of them. Even the best coaches need talent. 

[IUfan_Charlie 3,867]

49 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

The problem is the NCAA should make it where you have to be in college for three years in order to then be eligible for the NBA draft. College football and college baseball have that rule so I don't see why college basketball doesn't

Basketball doesn't have the 3 year rule because NBA drafting is based so heavily on potential. This years NBA lottery is almost certainly going to be all Freshmen and a few Freshmen aged Europeans. How often do you see 22-23 year old kids get drafted early? Baseball players have a longer window to play than basketball players. 

[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

1 minute ago, IUfan_Charlie said:

Basketball doesn't have the 3 year rule because NBA drafting is based so heavily on potential. This years NBA lottery is almost certainly going to be all Freshmen and a few Freshmen aged Europeans. How often do you see 22-23 year old kids get drafted early? Baseball players have a longer window to play than basketball players. 

Drafting on potential isn't always the best way to go. It would have to be an absolute can't miss player. Most of the time, I would want a proven commodity

[IUfan_Charlie 3,867]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

Drafting on potential isn't always the best way to go. It would have to be an absolute can't miss player. Most of the time, I would want a proven commodity

If you're drafting a 22-23 year old you're getting a role player most of the time. If you're drafting a 19 year old he might be a all-star. 

[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

5 minutes ago, IUfan_Charlie said:

If you're drafting a 22-23 year old you're getting a role player most of the time. If you're drafting a 19 year old he might be a all-star. 

Possibly but I just don't like the one and done. It makes college basketball a virtual stepping stone