2019 April Evaluation Period

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7 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Dopirak later reported Archie was watching the Indiana Elite 16U which includes Luke Brown, Curt Hopf and Trey Kaufman so some of you can rest easy that Archie has indeed watched Luke Brown play.  lol

Dopirak also tweeted that he didn't know if Luke Brown could play high D1 ball, but he said that he was sure fun to watch.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 81,510]

Maybe a little more interest in Anthony Leal's weekend with his upcoming Monday in-home with Archie so I'll go ahead and post the Indiana Elite numbers from their morning game.

Trey Galloway '20 (SG) - Indiana Elite
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	16	7	9	0	1	2	4	3	2	4	1	0
4/27	L	15	6	12	0	3	3	4	2	2	2	0	2
4/27
4/28
Avg		19.5	65%		29%		77%		5	2	2	0	1
# Gms AAU	6
# Gms MP	27	16.3								4			1
Khristian Lander '21 (PG) - Indiana Elite										Has IU Offer
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	11	4	12	1	4	2	3	8	3	5	0	0
4/27	L	12	4	5	1	2	3	6	4	0	4	0	1
4/27
4/28
Avg		10.3	49%		26%		56%		5	2	3	0	1
# Gms AAU	6
# Gms MP	23	22							4	4		2
Anthony Leal '20 (SG) - Indiana Elite
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	18	7	15	3	6	1	2	10	3	1	0	0
4/27	L	11	3	10	0	6	5	7	4	2	4	0	0
4/27
4/28
Avg		13.7	45%		34%		69%		4	2	1	0	1
# Gms AAU	6
# Gms MP	N.A.

 

 

[Uspshoosier 44,421]

https://www.exposuresportsnews.com/news_article/show/1016305
IU mentioned


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[Class of '66 Old Fart 81,510]

Dustin Dopirak -  Khristian Lander says he’s hearing from Indiana, Louisville and Iowa more than anyone else at this point. Noticed IU’s struggles this year but says he still likes what the Hoosiers do with their guards.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 81,510]

Number of games on the Nike and UA circuits have yet to be updated for Saturday's games so not sure when I'll post those summaries.

Through Saturday on the adidas circuit.  Number of teams still not providing stats for TO's, steals and blocks.  We're up to 7 games through this adidas AAU season so the numbers begin to have a little more meaning for the IN Elite players and Zach Loveday.  Reminder that the D1 Minnesota  kids we follow did not play in the first weekend event of this season so we only have 3 games of stats for them.

Ben Carlson - '20 (PF)   D1 Minnesota
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	10	1		1	3	7	10	9	0
4/27	W	9	4	8	1	2	0	3	2	2
4/27	W	11	4	6	1	2	2	6	5	1
4/28
Avg		10.0	64%		43%		47%		5	1	#DIV/0!	#DIV/0!	#DIV/0!
# Gms	3
# Gms MP	Not	Available
Trey Galloway '20 (SG) - Indiana Elite
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	16	7	9	0	1	2	4	3	2	4	1	0
4/27	L	15	6	12	0	3	3	4	2	2	2	0	2
4/27	L	21	8	8	3	3	2	4	0	2
4/28
Avg		19.7	68%		40%		73%		4	2	2	0	1
# Gms AAU	7
# Gms MP	27	16.3								4			1
Dawson Garcia '20 (PF) - D1 Minnesota
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	9	4	7	1	3	0	0	4	1
4/27	W	9	4	8	1	2	0	0	3	6
4/27	W	12	4	8	0	2	4	4	3	2
4/28
Avg		10.0	52%		29%		100%		3	3	#DIV/0!	#DIV/0!	#DIV/0!
# Gms	3
# Gms MP	Not	Available
Khristian Lander '21 (PG) - Indiana Elite										Has IU Offer
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	11	4	12	1	4	2	3	8	3	5	0	0
4/27	L	12	4	5	1	2	3	6	4	0	4	0	1
4/27	L	21	4	4	4	4	9	9	2	5
4/28
Avg		11.9	53%		39%		72%		4	3	3	0	1
# Gms AAU	7
# Gms MP	23	22							4	4		2
Anthony Leal '20 (SG) - Indiana Elite
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	18	7	15	3	6	1	2	10	3	1	0	0
4/27	L	11	3	10	0	6	5	7	4	2	4	0	0
4/27	L	14	4	4	1	1	5	7	1	2
4/28
Avg		13.7	48%		36%		70%		4	2	1	0	1
# Gms AAU	7
# Gms MP	N.A.
Zach Loveday '20 ( C ) - Wildcats Select										Has IU Offer
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	7	2	4	1	2	2	6	3	0	1	1	0
4/27	L	11	5	7	0	1	1	2	6	1
4/27	W	7	2	4	1	2	2	2	6	1	1	1	0
4/28
Avg		10.6	64%		38%		60%		6	1	0	1	0
# Gms AAU	7
# Gms MP	N.A.

[Uspshoosier 44,421]

IU is 3 deep for Love and Fletcher this morning to start the day out.


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[Feathery 4,003]

So will IU offer both Leal and Golloway or only offer 1? Assuming Leal gets his offer Monday. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 81,510]

MANSFIELD, TX. – Premier big men in the 2020 class remain difficult to find which makes Zach Loveday that much more of an enticing prospect. The near 7-footer showed off a rapidly developing half-court skillset at the adidas Gauntlet as he has no shortage of college interest.

“I try to bring whatever is needed. I try to help make everyone better and help us win some games,” Loveday said in assessing his strengths on the floor. “All too often, you see a lot of guys where the ball sticks to their hands. I don’t want to be like that. I want to see everyone succeed but I also want to show off my game but I want to make sure I find a good balance for that.”

Holding eight scholarship offers from a group that includes Indiana, Michigan, Ohio State and Purdue, Loveday will take an official visit to Baylor on Monday. He discussed the five programs further.

IN HIS OWN WORDS

Baylor: “It will be my first time ever being down there so I just want to see it and it is one of those ones that I cannot use an unofficial visit on so I want to see what they have to offer and what they do off of the court, in the classroom and in the gym; what they bring as a team.”

Indiana: “I haven’t been there but it will be one that I could be going to real soon. I haven’t seen them a whole lot but I did get to meet the assistant that has been recruiting me finally and he was great. His resume, he sounds like he knows what he is doing. They have a rich tradition of basketball there. I would love to get there and see what they do on and off of the court.”

Michigan: “I went there for a visit before Christmas. It was good. I got to see what they do off of the court with their development. Their strength coach, I really, really like him. He does a great job developing their players and I think that, to me, is the main factors in a winning team is development off of the court and a weight room and things like that.”

Ohio State: “I like Coach (Chris) Holtmann and he has made great strides going forward so far. He has a great recruiting class and I like the way that he thinks. He is real flexible with how he plays and uses everything that he has to beat people and I respect that.”

Purdue: “I love the way they play. Coach Paint (Matt Painter) does a great job of playing with his size and to me, that is one of those things that is huge. I watched them this past year with Matt) Haarms nd he is good, great footwork and skilled in the low post. I think that I can be that along with what I bring outside from 15-feet with ball handling, shooting and making people better. I think that if I were to do something like that, it would add a whole other dimension to that place.”

RIVALS' REACTION & WHAT'S NEXT

One of the most skilled frontcourt prospects in the 2020 class, Loveday previewed his upcoming visit. “I am taking a visit to Baylor after this weekend and hopefully I can pick that offer up and that would be a good one to have,” he said. “They play a lot through their bigs so that interests me a lot; schools that use their big men and within their flow of the offense.”

A lefty with great touch to the perimeter that can score from 20-feet and in, he is also a precise passer that can finish and rebound within traffic. His recruitment remains on the upswing as he has been one of the more talked about prospects this weekend in Texas and should continue to see more offers handed out his way.

 

New Info:  In a separate article this:  

“I’m planning on a fall commitment, November is the latest.”

He also said he plans on using his five senior official visits, will use them on his top-five that he will narrow down to after the summer.

Edited April 29, 2019 by Class of '66 Old Fart
Timing of Commitment

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@INBBallSource: Indy Heat 17U vs. All-Ohio Red. Matt Painter, Archie Miller, Chris Holtmann, Lavall Jordan, Fran McCaffery, Bob Huggins, and assistants from Notre Dame, Cincinnati, Bradley, Loyola, and more.

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,031]

Those Loveday quotes paint a picture.

We need success on the court.


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So will IU offer both Leal and Golloway or only offer 1? Assuming Leal gets his offer Monday. 

Only one if Morton is a priority still.

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Final numbers for the adidas weekend.  

Ben Carlson - '20 (PF)   D1 Minnesota
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	10	1		1	3	7	10	9	0
4/27	W	9	4	8	1	2	0	3	2	2
4/27	W	11	4	6	1	2	2	6	5	1
4/28	W	7	3	4	1	1	0	0	3	1	0	1	1
Avg		9.3	67%		50%		47%		5	1	0	1	1
# Gms	4
# Gms MP	Not	Available
Trey Galloway '20 (SG) - Indiana Elite
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	16	7	9	0	1	2	4	3	2	4	1	0
4/27	L	15	6	12	0	3	3	4	2	2	2	0	2
4/27	L	21	8	8	3	3	2	4	0	2
4/28	L	22	9	13	3	4	1	1	5	0	1	0	0
Avg		20.0	68%		46%		74%		4	2	1	0	1
# Gms AAU	8
# Gms MP	27	16.3								4			1
Dawson Garcia '20 (PF) - D1 Minnesota
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	9	4	7	1	3	0	0	4	1
4/27	W	9	4	8	1	2	0	0	3	6
4/27	W	12	4	8	0	2	4	4	3	2
4/28	W	10	4	7	1	3	1	4	3	0	0	0	0
Avg		10.0	53%		30%		63%		3	2	0	0	0
# Gms	4
# Gms MP	Not	Available
Donovan Johnson '20 (SF) - Wildcats Select
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	25	8	10	4	5	5	8	3	0
4/27	L	17	6	9	3	5	2	3	5	3
4/27	W	19	5	17	0	5	9	10	8	3	4	1	1
4/28	W	13	5	17	3	8	0	0	5	2	1	0	1
Avg		15.9	46%		39%		75%		5	2	1	0	0
# Gms AAU	8
# Gms MP	N/A
Khristian Lander '21 (PG) - Indiana Elite										Has IU Offer
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	11	4	12	1	4	2	3	8	3	5	0	0
4/27	L	12	4	5	1	2	3	6	4	0	4	0	1
4/27	L	21	4	4	4	4	9	9	2	5
4/28	L	14	5	10	2	5	2	4	4	2	0	0	1
Avg		12.1	52%		39%		69%		4	3	2	0	1
# Gms AAU	8
# Gms MP	23	22							4	4		2
Anthony Leal '20 (SG) - Indiana Elite
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	18	7	15	3	6	1	2	10	3	1	0	0
4/27	L	11	3	10	0	6	5	7	4	2	4	0	0
4/27	L	14	4	4	1	1	5	7	1	2
4/28	L	12	5	12	1	6	1	3	2	2	0	0	1
Avg		13.5	47%		33%		65%		3	2	1	0	1
# Gms AAU	8
# Gms MP	N.A.
Zach Loveday '20 ( C ) - Wildcats Select										Has IU Offer
Date	W / L	Pts.	FGM	FGA	3PM	3PA	FTM	FTA	Reb	Assts.	TO's	Blks.	Stls.
4/26	W	7	2	4	1	2	2	6	3	0	1	1	0
4/27	L	11	5	7	0	1	1	2	6	1
4/27	W	7	2	4	1	2	2	2	6	1	1	1	0
4/28	W	10	3	5	0	0	4	5	6	1	1	6	0
Avg		10.5	63%		38%		65%		6	1	0	2	0
# Gms AAU	8
# Gms MP	N.A.

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,031]

Indiana elite goes 1-3 with 3 hopeful future Hoosiers on the roster. Yes, Lander is playing up, but I think this indicates what many are thinking and that 2020 is a down year for in state talent.

Heck maybe they get it together over the summer and win all the rest of their games. So who knows.

I’m sure this wasn’t the weekend Leal and Archie wanted with the upcoming in home visit and likely offer.


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Indiana elite goes 1-3 with 3 hopeful future Hoosiers on the roster. Yes, Lander is playing up, but I think this indicates what many are thinking and that 2020 is a down year for in state talent.

Heck maybe they get it together over the summer and win all the rest of their games. So who knows.

I’m sure this wasn’t the weekend Leal and Archie wanted with the upcoming in home visit and likely offer.


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Last year they were one of the top teams on the circuit. This year they have no size and they are getting pounded and abused down low. No matter the level if you don’t have the size to match up then more then likely you are going to struggle



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[WayneFleekHoosier 47,031]

Last year they were one of the top teams on the circuit. This year they have no size and they are getting pounded and abused down low. No matter the level if you don’t have the size to match up then more then likely you are going to struggle



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I never said they weren’t good last year. Not sure what that has to do with anything. They had Brooks and TJD.

Yes, size makes a huge difference. No doubt about that. They do have Majak who is lanky but very tall.

Just saying, it appears 2020 is a down class as the “experts” have been indicating. At an early glance, likely too early, this weekend didn’t change that line of thought.

Statically Galloway had a strong weekend.


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[Uspshoosier 44,421]

I never said they weren’t good last year. Not sure what that has to do with anything. They had Brooks and TJD.

Yes, size makes a huge difference. No doubt about that. They do have Majak who is lanky but very tall.

Just saying, it appears 2020 is a down class as the “experts” have been indicating. At an early glance, likely too early, this weekend didn’t change that line of thought.

Statically Galloway had a strong weekend.


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Brooks and TJD played on The Nike circuit


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[WayneFleekHoosier 47,031]

Brooks and TJD played on The Nike circuit


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Ok. Who was on Indiana Elite 2019? Phinisee?
Who did that team have for size?


EYBL is also widely regarded to be a better circuit. Correct?

Still not sure why them being good last year has anything to do with this years team having a rough opening weekend.


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[Uspshoosier 44,421]

Ok. Who was on Indiana Elite 2019? Phinisee?
Who did that team have for size?


EYBL is also widely regarded to be a better circuit. Correct?

Still not sure why them being good last year has anything to do with this years team having a rough opening weekend.


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Phinisee couldn’t of played last year because he graduated. Only players that could of played on last years team would be 2020 players and kids that played up like Lander is doing this year. Each circuit has top talent but if you want my opinion from watching them I would agree that Nike is the best out of the 3. If front court was a strength on last years team and they were a top team and this years team front court is a big weakness couldn’t that have something to do with them struggling?


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Phinisee couldn’t of played last year because he graduated. Only players that could of played on last years team would be 2020 players and kids that played up like Lander is doing this year. Each circuit has top talent but if you want my opinion from watching them I would agree that Nike is the best out of the 3. If front court was a strength on last years team and they were a top team and this years team front court is a big weakness couldn’t that have something to do with them struggling?

 

 

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Maybe. Also could be a convenient excuse. We don’t even know who was on 2019 roster. Franklin or Newman?

 

Like I say they have Majak this year. Guard play generally dominates AAU but I realize you can be outsized and make things really hard.

 

 

 

 

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[Uspshoosier 44,421]

Maybe. Also could be a convenient excuse. We don’t even know who was on 2019 roster. Franklin or Newman?

 

Like I say they have Majak this year. Guard play generally dominates AAU but I realize you can be outsized and make things really hard.

 

 

 

 

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Those 2 would of been on the 2019 group and they played for meansteets on the Nike circuit. All I’m saying is this 2020 group won the adidas gauntlet when they were in the 15u group as freshman, they were one of the best teams last year on the circuit on the 16u group, and this year they lost some frontcourt players to a different AAU team and they have started out struggling. 2020 is a down year in the state of Indiana recruiting I agree with you but this team has shown that they could compete in years past on the circuit with a core of Galloway, Leal and Coleman. This year in the 17u hasn’t gone as planned

 

 

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