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34 minutes ago, cybergates said:

Pretty sure the NCAA has no control over the CFP whereas it runs the NCAA basketball tournament entirely.

You are correct, I just assumed wrong...

The committee members include one current athletic director from each of the four "major" conferences—ACC, Big Ten, Big 12, and SEC—also known as the Power conferences. Other members are former coaches, players, athletic directors, and administrators, plus a retired member of the media.

My apologies to Sunshine Pumper and Dayton, looks like the elites pretty much control this thing!

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11 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

That’s what I’m saying.

The conference champ gets-in, even if they jump over a higher ranked team, but once-in everyone is slotted by ranking (ie Arizona State would still have made the playoff, for winning their conference, but there is no way they should be seeded 4th and get a bye. They should be seeded 12th).

Slight correction: ASU should have been seeded 11th since Clemson is properly seeded 12th.

I think that is one of the first corrections we'll see. The byes will no longer go the top 4 conference champions, but instead the top 4 ranked teams. We'll see the seeding match the rankings.

I wonder if they'll also go away from weekly updates before the announcements. That kind of locks the committee in to certain rankings for teams. If they hadn't done that, Alabama might have gotten in instead of SMU. I think they got it right but I bet they wanted to put Bama in but just couldn't because of rankings from before the conference championship.

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1 minute ago, DChoosier said:

I realize everyone is aware of the ridiculous Stubhub fees but here is a real life example.

IU at ND, section 125, row 4 seats  are $1,166 each.

 Including fees, however, they are $1,576 each.

$410 in fees to electronically issue a ticket !!!!

 

The fees for ticker services have long been ridiculous. I've gotten "cheap" tickets from ticketmaster and paid as much or more in fees making them no longer cheap. $410 in fees is taking it to a whole new level, though.

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2 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

I realize everyone is aware of the ridiculous Stubhub fees but here is a real life example.

IU at ND, section 125, row 4 seats  are $1,166 each.

 Including fees, however, they are $1,576 each.

$410 in fees to electronically issue a ticket !!!!

 

That is one of the reasons I was thinking neutral sites would be better, I would think you would see somewhat affordable ticket prices, but there you have the problem with attendance. Maybe there needs to be some sort of cap on ticket prices for these playoff games?

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5 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

I realize everyone is aware of the ridiculous Stubhub fees but here is a real life example.

IU at ND, section 125, row 4 seats  are $1,166 each.

 Including fees, however, they are $1,576 each.

$410 in fees to electronically issue a ticket !!!!

 

The fees are simply a percentage of the ticket price. I bought row 19 SeatGeek tix for IUBB vs Eastern Illinois. Because the tix were so cheap, the fees were about $7.00.

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Just now, RoadRage said:

That is one of the reasons I was thinking neutral sites would be better, I would think you would see somewhat affordable ticket prices, but there you have the problem with attendance. Maybe there needs to be some sort of cap on ticket prices for these playoff games?

At this point the IU-ND game is an anomaly.

The other home stadium games are significantly cheaper (comparable seats at OSU are less than 1/2 the price of ND. and you can get at PSU tickets, along the sideline for $225-250 including fees.)

There is zero chance that a price cap can/should/would be enacted on people selling their tickets. Market value “is what it is”.

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Just now, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Kudos to you for being willing to spend money on that game. 

Lol... I was in town for the Michigan football game and it was something to do the following day at noon. Completely uninspiring game, but being in the Hall in good lower level seats for $40-fees included was a good time!

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1 minute ago, DChoosier said:

At this point the IU-ND game is an anomaly.

The other home stadium games are significantly cheaper (comparable seats at OSU are less than 1/2 the price of ND. and you can get at PSU tickets, along the sideline for $225-250 including fees.)

There is zero chance that a price cap can/should/would be enacted on people selling their tickets. Market value “is what it is”.

So it is basically scalping prices, which is legal in Indiana, probably not in some of the other locations?

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9 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

So it is basically scalping prices, which is legal in Indiana, probably not in some of the other locations?

Ultimately I just like the idea of teams being rewarded for a good regular season. Then the next round and the subsequent rounds---neutral sites. 

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14 minutes ago, RoadRage said:

So it is basically scalping prices, which is legal in Indiana, probably not in some of the other locations?

There are no legality issues.

You can buy tickets through Stubhub (which are often, but not always, above face value) for events anywhere and everywhere.

Sometimes the prices are sky high while other times, such as when you could get $12-$15 IU football tickets a couple of years ago, they are dirt cheap.

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50 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

The fees are simply a percentage of the ticket price. I bought row 19 SeatGeek tix for IUBB vs Eastern Illinois. Because the tix were so cheap, the fees were about $7.00.

They are like 40% of the ticket price, and I think it's completely absurd that they are able to charge so much. I honestly think it should be illegal as the service they are providing is a relatively simple one. And they are also charging the seller a fee at the same time.

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Just now, HoosierX said:

They are like 40% of the ticket price, and I think it's completely absurd that they are able to charge so much. I honestly think it should be illegal as the service they are providing is a relatively simple one. And they are also charging the seller a fee at the same time.

Charge the seller 10%, right? 

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42 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

They are like 40% of the ticket price, and I think it's completely absurd that they are able to charge so much. I honestly think it should be illegal as the service they are providing is a relatively simple one. And they are also charging the seller a fee at the same time.

IMO? Artificial price controls suck...free market, baybeeeeeeeee!!

In other words;

  • If those tickets are too expensive with fees? Those seats would go empty or sellers will reduce the price until they sell. But they clearly aren't priced too high because when the day is done, every one of those free market expensive seats will sell. 
  • And if those fees are too high to enable sales? Another ticket service will undercut them on fees. But because they sell at the high prices, that doesn't happen.

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So, how were the tickets for this game with Notre Dame decimated? Were a block of tickets made available at face value to IU, and were there some tickets made available to the general public at face value? I mean I assume Notre Dame season ticket holders were able to buy tickets at face?

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