Seeding come March

[Evann500]

Lunardi released his new seed list as of (2/13) and we're still an 8 seed... Is everyone expecting that high of a seed? I, for one would hope we could get down to a 4 or 5. What do you all think we could be come March given that the majority of our big games are upon us soon?

[Old Friend]

If we lose all 4 "tough" games, we'll be lower than an 8.  We go 4-0, we might be a 2.   We then win the BIG Tournament?  (Or get to the final, the decisions are made before the final game is over)  We can even be a #1 if other things fall correctly.   

 

There is no way of knowing right now.   Too much of our "meat" still left on the bone and too many teams jumbled together.    We can be a #11 in a play in game or we can be a very high seed.   And I can make a reasonable argument for both given what happens the next 2-3 weeks.

[Evann500]

Thanks for the input. Definitely can agree with it.

[The Ola Depot]

Also have to remember Lunardi isn't a good bracketologist. Had us as a bubble team last year and we were in by far.

[biteoftheapple]

Many think Andy Bottoms is a good bracketoligist, he has as an 8 today.

http://assemblycall.com/author/andy-bottoms/

[LIHoosier]

I go by the bracket matrix that incorporates about every bracket predictor out there. Has IU on the 7 line as of games completed 2/12.

 

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

 

FYI, going by their rankings, Bottoms is the #1 predictor that's been around at least 3 years.

[djsalway]

I go by the bracket matrix that incorporates about every bracket predictor out there. Has IU on the 7 line as of games completed 2/12.

http://www.bracketmatrix.com/

FYI, going by their rankings, Bottoms is the #1 predictor that's been around at least 3 years.

THANK YOU

[Scooter D]

Right now, the Hoosiers really only have one good win (vs Iowa at home) and three bad losses (Wake, UNLV, and @Penn St - all sub-.500 teams).  So I would think that an 8 seed at this point is probably right on...maybe a 7, but a 6 is doubtful.

 

Going forward, if IU is to really contend for the regular season title, I would think that they need to beat at least three of @Mich. St., Purdue, @Iowa and Maryland, and win out all of the others.  A road win would be a huge boost.  If they can finish 1st or 2nd in conference, I think that they could get as high as a 4, maybe a 3 if they can make a deep run or win (dreaming) the BTT.  Even if IU wins a share of the regular season title, I think that the other team(s) get a better seed, given that they have been ranked for more of the season.

 

Not having a good showing in Maui, the Duke loss, and the poor pre-Big 10 schedule is killing us.   

[Alford Bailey]

With so many teams looking average this year I think we can really help ourselves with a strong showing in the B1G tourney. Keep our name out there a little longer that weekend may help a little with seeding this year. Of course, we still need a couple more good wins here in conference play.

[mdn82]

Right now, the Hoosiers really only have one good win (vs Iowa at home) and three bad losses (Wake, UNLV, and @Penn St - all sub-.500 teams). So I would think that an 8 seed at this point is probably right on...maybe a 7, but a 6 is doubtful.

Going forward, if IU is to really contend for the regular season title, I would think that they need to beat at least three of @Mich. St., Purdue, @Iowa and Maryland, and win out all of the others. A road win would be a huge boost. If they can finish 1st or 2nd in conference, I think that they could get as high as a 4, maybe a 3 if they can make a deep run or win (dreaming) the BTT. Even if IU wins a share of the regular season title, I think that the other team(s) get a better seed, given that they have been ranked for more of the season.

Not having a good showing in Maui, the Duke lose, and the poor pre-Big 10 schedule is killing us.

We are doing very well against the top 50. Which will help us. I think even a split in our strong games coming up with a strong showing in the BTT would get us to a 5. The MSU road game will do more for us than PU or Maryland at home.

[HoosierAloha]

Right now, the Hoosiers really only have one good win (vs Iowa at home) and three bad losses (Wake, UNLV, and @Penn St - all sub-.500 teams).  So I would think that an 8 seed at this point is probably right on...maybe a 7, but a 6 is doubtful.

 

Going forward, if IU is to really contend for the regular season title, I would think that they need to beat at least three of @Mich. St., Purdue, @Iowa and Maryland, and win out all of the others.  A road win would be a huge boost.  If they can finish 1st or 2nd in conference, I think that they could get as high as a 4, maybe a 3 if they can make a deep run or win (dreaming) the BTT.  Even if IU wins a share of the regular season title, I think that the other team(s) get a better seed, given that they have been ranked for more of the season.

 

Not having a good showing in Maui, the Duke lose, and the poor pre-Big 10 schedule is killing us.   

 

I disagree with this.  Notre Dame (a tourney team with a higher projected seed) on a neutral floor and Michigan (a tourney team) on the road are both good wins.  Creighton is a bubble team but that was at home and early in the season.  That loss at PSU could potentially end up being the difference in a full seed.  Bad, bad loss.

[Miller'sTheMan]

Right now, the Hoosiers really only have one good win (vs Iowa at home) and three bad losses (Wake, UNLV, and @Penn St - all sub-.500 teams).  So I would think that an 8 seed at this point is probably right on...maybe a 7, but a 6 is doubtful.

 

Going forward, if IU is to really contend for the regular season title, I would think that they need to beat at least three of @Mich. St., Purdue, @Iowa and Maryland, and win out all of the others.  A road win would be a huge boost.  If they can finish 1st or 2nd in conference, I think that they could get as high as a 4, maybe a 3 if they can make a deep run or win (dreaming) the BTT.  Even if IU wins a share of the regular season title, I think that the other team(s) get a better seed, given that they have been ranked for more of the season.

 

Not having a good showing in Maui, the Duke lose, and the poor pre-Big 10 schedule is killing us.   

I'd say we have 2 good wins with Notre Dame. Borderline top 25 team, and they are a top 25 RPI win (Currently 22nd in the RPI). 

[Uspshoosier]

Right now, the Hoosiers really only have one good win (vs Iowa at home) and three bad losses (Wake, UNLV, and @Penn St - all sub-.500 teams). So I would think that an 8 seed at this point is probably right on...maybe a 7, but a 6 is doubtful.

Going forward, if IU is to really contend for the regular season title, I would think that they need to beat at least three of @Mich. St., Purdue, @Iowa and Maryland, and win out all of the others. A road win would be a huge boost. If they can finish 1st or 2nd in conference, I think that they could get as high as a 4, maybe a 3 if they can make a deep run or win (dreaming) the BTT. Even if IU wins a share of the regular season title, I think that the other team(s) get a better seed, given that they have been ranked for more of the season.

Not having a good showing in Maui, the Duke lose, and the poor pre-Big 10 schedule is killing us.

teams being ranked for more of the season will have no impact on seeding. The committee doesn't look at rankings it's all about how each teams resume compares on the team sheets when they are deciding seeds. Ap and coaches polls don't matter

[HoosierSadaseci]

Still early to project IU's seed in the tournament, but if you're going to go ahead and project, as of right now 8/9 seed sounds about right, but with many tough games left that we could potentially lose I'm thinking we could end up a 12 seed.

If we win many of those tough games, or even a couple, we may be a 6 or 7.

If we get hot, and actually finish strong, we may jump up in the 4/5 range. I think 4 is as high as we could get.

[Scooter D]

teams being ranked for more of the season will have no impact on seeding. The committee doesn't look at rankings it's all about how each teams resume compares on the team sheets when they are deciding seeds. Ap and coaches polls don't matter

The committee may not "look" at the polls, but they know. 

 

Anyway, the point that I was trying to make was that a team like Maryland, which has been in the top 10 all season, or Michigan St. will most likely get a better seed than IU even if IU does win a share of the regular season title.  So...yeah, it does matter.    

[Scooter D]

I'd say we have 2 good wins with Notre Dame. Borderline top 25 team, and they are a top 25 RPI win (Currently 22nd in the RPI). 

OK, I can agree that the win over ND was a quality win...keep forgetting about them. 

 

The road win at Michigan does look better after today's result over Purdue. 

[HoosierAloha]

OK, I can agree that the win over ND was a quality win...keep forgetting about them. 

 

The road win at Michigan does look better after today's result over Purdue. 

 

UM has also beat Maryland at home.  Michigan is 8-4 in the B1G, didn't realize this before today. 

[Uspshoosier]

The committee may not "look" at the polls, but they know.

Anyway, the point that I was trying to make was that a team like Maryland, which has been in the top 10 all season, or Michigan St. will most likely get a better seed than IU even if IU does win a share of the regular season title. So...yeah, it does matter.

if their overall resume is better then ours if we win a share of the regular season then yes they will get a better seed it won't be because one team was ranked for 15 weeks while iu was ranked for 6 weeks

[Brass Cannon]

How many top 50 wins does Maryland have yet they are talked as a 2 seed?

[mdn82]

How many top 50 wins does Maryland have yet they are talked as a 2 seed?

Not many at all.