Jketch Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 My dad seems to think juwan will start alongside bryant, JBJ, troy, and yogi assuming he stays. bnkepner 1 Quote
NRT137 Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 My dad seems to think juwan will start alongside bryant, JBJ, troy, and yogi assuming he stays. Has your dad seen clips of juwan Morgan? He slithers around like a snake and shows no hustle whatsoever. He will probably adapt to college style, and can also shoot the 3 well. He won't start though for sure if we get thon. Quote
bnkepner Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Has your dad seen clips of juwan Morgan? He slithers around like a snake and shows no hustle whatsoever. He will probably adapt to college style, and can also shoot the 3 well. He won't start though for sure if we get thon. Best to save judgments till we see him in full games. He was named Most Improved Player of last summers EYBL AAU league, which is the top AAU league in the states. That bodes well for him. Quote
Popular Post TomPritchard25 Posted April 9, 2015 Popular Post Posted April 9, 2015 I don't see why everyone is down on HARTMAN. Team fell apart when he got hurt. Am I the only one who remembers this? johnsoniu, Parakeet Jones, MaraOladipo4 and 10 others 13 Quote
Dalton26 Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 I don't see why everyone is down on HARTMAN. Team fell apart when he got hurt. Am I the only one who remembers this? i was just wondering the samething. Quote
WayneFleekHoosier Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 I don't see why everyone is down on HARTMAN. Team fell apart when he got hurt. Am I the only one who remembers this?agree! Though his ceiling is limited due to athleticism on offense and defense. His heart and hustle make up for it but, to what extent? Quote
Parakeet Jones Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 agree! Though his ceiling is limited due to athleticism on offense and defense. His heart and hustle make up for it but, to what extent? And his brains WayneFleekHoosier and Jketch 2 Quote
TomPritchard25 Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Aside yogi, last year I would deem him MVP to the team. Stats don't mean value always. He was the glue guy & held it together. I just don't get why anyone would bad talk him? We always talk about traditional "IU players". WAKE UP PEOPLE. Collin is VINTAGE IU. Five Prime and MemphisHoosier 2 Quote
Parakeet Jones Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Aside yogi, last year I would deem him MVP to the team. Stats don't mean value always. He was the glue guy & held it together. I just don't get why anyone would bad talk him? We always talk about traditional "IU players". WAKE UP PEOPLE. Collin is VINTAGE IU. I could not agree more. I think Colin's nickname should be "80's" because he reminds me of an IU player from that era. Class of '66 Old Fart 1 Quote
323SGrant Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 I don't see why everyone is down on HARTMAN. Team fell apart when he got hurt. Am I the only one who remembers this? I was really pleasantly surprised by Hartman this year and it was great to see his 3pt shot back during the Wichita State game. Quote
OliviaPope40 Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Hartman is not as bad as some make him out to be. Class of '66 Old Fart 1 Quote
johnsoniu Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Hartman was also coming back from rehabbing a torn ACL and then being asked to play the post in the B1G. Give him a healthy summer to work on his game and he could make an even bigger leap than he did last year. HoosierAloha and ThompsonHoosier 2 Quote
bnkepner Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Im not down on Hartman but you also have to be realistic about him. Of course it wasn't fair to put him in the post, but he isn't quick enough to defend most wings. Apart from an occasional three he doesn't add much on offense. Im not saying he is terrible or shouldn't play, but I think he is a role player at best. He is usually pretty smart with the ball and his passing but can't be counted on to score usually Quote
TomPritchard25 Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Im not down on Hartman but you also have to be realistic about him. Of course it wasn't fair to put him in the post, but he isn't quick enough to defend most wings. Apart from an occasional three he doesn't add much on offense. Im not saying he is terrible or shouldn't play, but I think he is a role player at best. He is usually pretty smart with the ball and his passing but can't be counted on to score usually if the quickest always wins in a match up, I believe we should've had more success this year. Was Steve Alford the quickest? Was Dan Dakich quicker than Jordan? Do we play man often? Does he get help side D? Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Hartman is not as bad as some make him out to be. He's a blue-collar, hard-nosed kid with a good basketball IQ. Not the most athletically gifted basketball player but very glad he's on our team. Parakeet Jones 1 Quote
DawgBawls Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 I don't see why everyone is down on HARTMAN. Team fell apart when he got hurt. Am I the only one who remembers this? I was thinking the same thing...he was one of the only ones I didnt cringe when he had the ball. ALASKA HOOSIER and Class of '66 Old Fart 2 Quote
Miller'sTheMan Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 We can play Hartman at the 4 spot and it's not he needs to be that quick to defend most 4's. ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Diadem Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 I'll be very surprised if Hanner doesn't get a majority of the minutes at the 4" . I mean he is a nightmare to cover if we actually had a legit center [ Bryant]. I hope Hanner make the jump that everyone was hoping for last year and I think he will get every opportunity to earn a starting job.Or he may be a transfer candidate if he feels Crean and Company are already too sour on him. Does anyone know if Hanner will have his degree this summer? Quote
GloryDays Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 agree! Though his ceiling is limited due to athleticism on offense and defense. His heart and hustle make up for it but, to what extent? He really has trouble guarding out on the floor. His lateral quickness is bad but could improve as he heals more from his leg injury's. As far as playing the 4, Holt is a very good offensive rebounder which we need out of that position. I really like Collin as a spark off the bench rather than a starter. WayneFleekHoosier, HoosierAloha, Parakeet Jones and 1 other 4 Quote
87 Rides a Surfboard Posted April 10, 2015 Posted April 10, 2015 Yogi JBJ Troy Hanner Bryant Rojo first off the bench. Followed by Collin, Holt, Zeis, Morgan, OG. Not listing DD right now because I have no idea where he'll be at by the start of the season. IU Hoosier41 1 Quote
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