Uspshoosier Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said: Possibly the SEMO game? Game before Christmas Break? Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, Ryno6284 said: I think he was saying students were gone and maybe the players were checked out mentally for Christmas? Yep Ryno6284 1 Quote
IU Scott Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said: We were once a blue blood, elite program that expected excellent. We are a washed up, has been program who has refused to adjust to what must be done and how it must be done to compete in this millennium. Has UCLA, puke, UNC, and Kansas settled like Indiana has settled? Would any of those programs continue to do the same thing with IU's results the last two decades? We are an average-at-best Big 1.o program with the remnants of a blue blood program (banners, fans, funding). I believe you meant 2013 when referencing Syracuse. I know the history quit well and seen 3 national championships. I want to get back to that but we might not ever get back to that. If you look early in the history of the sport where teams won big but never got back there. OSU won 2 championships in the early 60's and haven't won one since. I still think our Conference hinders every team from being elite. I think the style of play and how the game is played hinders the conference from getting elite talent. Also when we were truly elite the game was way more regional and now it is national especially in recruiting. We were able to get most of the top recruits from a 3 states but now these kids go all across the country. With more and more games being on TV these players family can see them play. With summer basketball these players are seen by every coach in the country. I guess I don't know what we are fans can do to change this because we really have no influence on anything. I have emailed AD before about my unhappiness with the program and twice they actually fired the coach. It didn't help this year with the football program. I don't think the fans are settling for anything but I just don't see how bitching constantly about coaches and program changes anything. Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said: Possibly the SEMO game? I assumed finals week was the same week as the game before Christmas break. My apologies Quote
IU Scott Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said: Possibly the SEMO game? I have heard coaches say the hardest week to get players attention is right before Christmas break and we saw some big upsets that week. Quote
Rico Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I know the history quit well and seen 3 national championships. I want to get back to that but we might not ever get back to that. If you look early in the history of the sport where teams won big but never got back there. OSU won 2 championships in the early 60's and haven't won one since. I still think our Conference hinders every team from being elite. I think the style of play and how the game is played hinders the conference from getting elite talent. Also when we were truly elite the game was way more regional and now it is national especially in recruiting. We were able to get most of the top recruits from a 3 states but now these kids go all across the country. With more and more games being on TV these players family can see them play. With summer basketball these players are seen by every coach in the country. I guess I don't know what we are fans can do to change this because we really have no influence on anything. I have emailed AD before about my unhappiness with the program and twice they actually fired the coach. It didn't help this year with the football program. I don't think the fans are settling for anything but I just don't see how bitching constantly about coaches and program changes anything. Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I know the history quit well and seen 3 national championships. I want to get back to that but we might not ever get back to that. If you look early in the history of the sport where teams won big but never got back there. OSU won 2 championships in the early 60's and haven't won one since. I still think our Conference hinders every team from being elite. I think the style of play and how the game is played hinders the conference from getting elite talent. Also when we were truly elite the game was way more regional and now it is national especially in recruiting. We were able to get most of the top recruits from a 3 states but now these kids go all across the country. With more and more games being on TV these players family can see them play. With summer basketball these players are seen by every coach in the country. I guess I don't know what we are fans can do to change this because we really have no influence on anything. I have emailed AD before about my unhappiness with the program and twice they actually fired the coach. It didn't help this year with the football program. I don't think the fans are settling for anything but I just don't see how bitching constantly about coaches and program changes anything. Fans can’t do anything. Only thing they can do is stop watching and cut that part of their life out or they buckle up and ride it out. I’ve told my wife many times that I’m done with investing the energy I have for IU basketball and I’m done…….that was 2 days ago. See you all on Sunday after the game. Never in the game chat though HoosierAloha, Ryno6284, ALASKA HOOSIER and 2 others 2 1 2 Quote
Ryno6284 Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rico said: You've been all over him today! Sniper Rico 1 Quote
Ryno6284 Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Nova about to lose at home again. down 84-77 16.6 secs. to go Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Charleston is in a battle at home vs Delaware. Delaware up 1 with 9:30 to go. cbssports network Quote
Ryno6284 Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Is this Indiana st. game live or a replay? Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 32 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Well UNC and Duke this year are going through some problems. How bad does UNC have to to lose to such a sorry program like IU . Those two plus UK has as many if not more kisses than we do this year. When I say they go through the same problems I am talking about in the games. Like people complaining about how we shot against a certain team but they don't look at the fact that every team they played hasn't shot well. We are talking 20-30 year stretches of mediocrity. Not a season or two. Quote
Hovadipo Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, Ryno6284 said: Is this Indiana st. game live or a replay? No spoilers from me, but they played at 2. Ryno6284 1 Quote
Ryno6284 Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Just now, Hovadipo said: No spoilers from me, but they played at 2. Okay, thx. I hate chicago sports channel! It never says what it is! Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Charleston is in a battle at home vs Delaware. Delaware up 1 with 9:30 to go. cbssports network Charleston up 6 now. Delaware is playing without their best player. Ready to feel old……. Jameer Nelson Jr. Quote
HoosierAloha Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 20 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Game before Christmas Break? Thought we were talking about finals week. I guess some coaches are worried about every game. Agree those games can be tough but we're talking about a really, really bad E. Illinois team on your home court. Maybe it was the winter storm and the fans not being able to attend? Quote
Uspshoosier Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Advantage of ESPN+ is their Big 12 deal. kansas st/Baylor Kansas/West Virginia Kansas up 12 and Baylor up 1 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said: Advantage of ESPN+ is their Big 12 deal. kansas st/Baylor Kansas/West Virginia Kansas up 12 and Baylor up 1 I'm not even sure why conferences want to keep their games off national TV. But I guess there will be a lot more room on ESPN soon with the Big Ten leaving. Quote
HoosierAloha Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 21 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I know the history quit well and seen 3 national championships. I want to get back to that but we might not ever get back to that. If you look early in the history of the sport where teams won big but never got back there. OSU won 2 championships in the early 60's and haven't won one since. I still think our Conference hinders every team from being elite. I think the style of play and how the game is played hinders the conference from getting elite talent. Also when we were truly elite the game was way more regional and now it is national especially in recruiting. We were able to get most of the top recruits from a 3 states but now these kids go all across the country. With more and more games being on TV these players family can see them play. With summer basketball these players are seen by every coach in the country. I guess I don't know what we are fans can do to change this because we really have no influence on anything. I have emailed AD before about my unhappiness with the program and twice they actually fired the coach. It didn't help this year with the football program. I don't think the fans are settling for anything but I just don't see how bitching constantly about coaches and program changes anything. I forgot you were 52 years old and saw those 3 national championships. Thank you for reminding me. Other programs have figured out how to deal with the change in college basketball. We have not. Thank you for making that point. Quote
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