College Bball Thread

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Sure. But again, this isn't seeding time for the tourney. And since that Xavier win, dominated at Rutgers so they moved down, dominated by Arizona and so they moved down. Destroyed by Kansas and they moved out. I'm not sure what's difficult about that to get. 

I’ve said this before, you go on being you.

You simply asked what the case was for ranking IU and I answered your question.

If you’re not a fan of the Hoosiers this year that’s completely your prerogative. But don’t expect to trash Indiana compared to almost any other real ranking expert, publish your negative takes about Indiana on the boards of some of our biggest rivals where they make a living out of trashing Indiana, and not have people push back.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

6 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

Just read his polls or don't and move on. No need to attack the dude, this isn't Twitter. It's one guy's poll so I'm not sure why people care? All 61 AP voters and LCS have one thing in common and that is that at the end of the day none of their opinions matter. Winning is all that matters and the rest is conjecture.

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Correct. And I know it doesn't matter. But I have my reasoning. Can it be flawed? Sure. Do I miss things? Absolutely. There are a lot of teams and a lot of games going on. Obviously I can't watch every single one. So I have to look at scores and stats to figure things out. I also have my own opinions and don't ever follow what the AP does(as seen by the fact I release my polls at 11). I think I've been putting out a Top 25 since 2016. Been really paying attention since about 2011(back on the old and awesome ESPN comment section days). 

I do a Top 25 because it's fun. It's a good conversation starter. I get to talk about it on my podcast some. I don't expect anyone to take it that seriously, but clearly people have and it's gotten some riled up(which might be a good thing?)

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

The fact that you had IU 22nd in the polls prior to the Kansas game shows you don't have the same measuring stick.

Well they were 19th the week before that and got beat by Arizona. They were 14th before that but got hammered by Rutgers. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

I’ve said this before, you go on being you.

You simply asked what the case was for ranking IU and I answered your question.

If you’re not a fan of the Hoosiers this year that’s completely your prerogative. But don’t expect to trash Indiana compared to almost any other real ranking expert, publish your negative takes about Indiana on the boards of some of our biggest rivals where they make a living out of trashing Indiana, and not have people push back.

Oh what a surprise. The "you're not a real fan" argument. 

[Hovadipo]

9 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I think his point is that you don't know what you are talking about your rankings mean nothing

This seems really unnecessary tbh. 

[Uspshoosier]

3 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

My measuring stick is the same. If you're 22nd in the polls and you go out and get absolutely throttled, you're moving out. Did the same with Kentucky who was 18th. Now if all the teams I was considering had lost, they would have stayed in. 

That what makes polls unique for each individual within the polls.  For you the 22nd team getting throttled on the road to a top 5 team was enough for you to move that team out.  For others they didn’t penalize the 22nd team for losing to a superior team on the road and kept them in.   I say it all the time at the end of the day polls are for fans and for discussion.  I would say your poll has provided that for the board.    If anyone cares I have IU with the 17th best resume so far this year.   5 seed 

[RaceToTheTop]

Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Oh what a surprise. The "you're not a real fan" argument. 

Not what he said, but glad to see you trying to paint yourself as a martyr.

[Stuhoo]

Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Oh what a surprise. The "you're not a real fan" argument. 

Oh puhlesase. Don’t put words in my mouth.

I didn’t say you’re not an IU fan. Just that you’re not a fan of the Hoosiers this year. As in, nearly everyone not associated with the program has a much higher opinion of them than you. 

[RaceToTheTop]

3 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

That what makes polls unique for each individual within the polls.  For you the 22nd team getting throttled on the road to a top 5 team was enough for you to move that team out.  For others they didn’t penalize the 22nd team for losing to a superior team on the road and kept them in.   I say it all the time at the end of the day polls are for fans and for discussion.  I would say your poll has provided that for the board.    If anyone cares I have IU with the 17th best resume so far this year.   5 seed 

He's obviously welcome to post any poll he wants regardless of where he ranks teams.  But his version of discussion is to act like he is getting attacked when people question those rankings.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

That what makes polls unique for each individual within the polls.  For you the 22nd team getting throttled on the road to a top 5 team was enough for you to move that team out.  For others they didn’t penalize the 22nd team for losing to a superior team on the road and kept them in.   I say it all the time at the end of the day polls are for fans and for discussion.  I would say your poll has provided that for the board.    If anyone cares I have IU with the 17th best resume so far this year.   5 seed 

And that would make sense to me when it comes to seeding. I remember in 2014, SMU was like 22nd or something and I kept telling people they weren't making the tourney. Told the AAC teams were going to be about 2-3 seed lines less than they believed. I ended up right and SMU, even though they were ranked in the AP, got left out of the NCAA tourney. Some were mad but their resume didn't show a tourney team by any means. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Oh puhlesase. Don’t put words in my mouth.

I didn’t say you’re not an IU fan. Just that you’re not a fan of the Hoosiers this year. As in, nearly everyone not associated with the program has a much higher opinion of them than you. 

So let me get this straight... You said I'm not a fan this year... But you're not saying I'm not a fan?

[RaceToTheTop]

2 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

So let me get this straight... You said I'm not a fan this year... But you're not saying I'm not a fan?

Please tell me you are just playing daft....

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

He's obviously welcome to post any poll he wants regardless of where he ranks teams.  But his version of discussion is to act like he is getting attacked when people question those rankings.

I've never said I was attacked. But I've given my reasons why IU dropped out. If you disagree, then you disagree. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Please tell me you are just playing daft....

Doesn't make much sense to say someone isn't a fan and then deny it but also admit to it at the same time. Pretty confusing. 

[RaceToTheTop]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Doesn't make much sense to say someone isn't a fan and then deny it but also admit to it at the same time. Pretty confusing. 

and yet you 'never said you were attacked'.

We are freaking talking about resumes.  Saying 'you aren't a fan of Indiana this season' is obviously in reference to Indiana's body of work.  The fact that anyone has to explain this shows how much of a self martyr you are.

[TheWatShot]

Dang, took a break for dinner and came back to see we've already reached the victimization stage of the discussion. That was quick. 

[RaceToTheTop]

22 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Correct. And I know it doesn't matter. But I have my reasoning. Can it be flawed? Sure. Do I miss things? Absolutely. There are a lot of teams and a lot of games going on. Obviously I can't watch every single one. So I have to look at scores and stats to figure things out. I also have my own opinions and don't ever follow what the AP does(as seen by the fact I release my polls at 11). I think I've been putting out a Top 25 since 2016. Been really paying attention since about 2011(back on the old and awesome ESPN comment section days). 

I do a Top 25 because it's fun. It's a good conversation starter. I get to talk about it on my podcast some. I don't expect anyone to take it that seriously, but clearly people have and it's gotten some riled up(which might be a good thing?)

Truth is I'm not upset in the slightest and I'm not sure why anyone cares about back and forth on a message board....sure beats dead space.  My initial post was a simple statement about not seeing how Penn State could be ranked and Indiana not.  Pretty basic statement.  I certainly haven't seen anything out of line posted (I guess I did use the word 'freaking', hope that didn't offend anyone).

Do I think you are biased against IU?  Yes.  That's my personal take and it doesn't come from just the top 25 poll you posted.  It comes from years of posts you've made.  But in all honesty, I just find Penn State being in your top 25 more egregious than IU not being in it.  

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

12 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

and yet you 'never said you were attacked'.

We are freaking talking about resumes.  Saying 'you aren't a fan of Indiana this season' is obviously in reference to Indiana's body of work.  The fact that anyone has to explain this shows how much of a self martyr you are.

No we are talking about the Top 25. Where a teams full resume isn't a big factor. If you want to talk about tourney seeding, we can talk about resumes. Indiana's win over Xavier has nothing to do with them moving down, their losses made them move down. 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich]

3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Truth is I'm not upset in the slightest and I'm not sure why anyone cares about back and forth on a message board....sure beats dead space.  My initial post was a simple statement about not seeing how Penn State could be ranked and Indiana not.  Pretty basic statement.  I certainly haven't seen anything out of line posted (I guess I did use the word 'freaking', hope that didn't offend anyone).

Do I think you are biased against IU?  Yes.  That's my personal take and it doesn't come from just the top 25 poll you posted.  It comes from years of posts you've made.  But in all honesty, I just find Penn State being in your top 25 more egregious than IU not being in it.  

I showed my considerations for this week. I put Indiana in my considerations just because I felt like it. Obviously they didn't play this past week so there wasn't anything to judge them on to shove them back in and ask the teams behind them didn't lose. I felt like throwing Penn State a bone and PSU could very well be a Top 35 team. Or they couldn't be. And another point for the Xavier game, as of right now, we aren't the same team. We aren't putting that team out on the court anymore. Come tourney time, that win could be huge. As for my Top 25, gotta win on Thursday and Sunday and they'll be right back into consideration. I think that's fair. 

[RaceToTheTop]

2 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

No we are talking about the Top 25. Where a teams full resume isn't a big factor. If you want to talk about tourney seeding, we can talk about resumes. Indiana's win over Xavier has nothing to do with them moving down, their losses made them move down. 

I'm done.  If you want to act like people say things that weren't said and play the victim, do it on your own.  I'm not feeding into any more.