RaceToTheTop Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said: Who in the hell did the city of Portland sleep with? Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 32 minutes ago, brumdog45 said: Iowa State's schedule currently has 4 games against teams ranked in the top 10 on Pom, 10 games against teams ranked in the top 25, 15 in the top 50, and 22 in the top 100. If they go 5-1 from here out, they will finish the season at 21-10 against a schedule that will be in the top 20. But they wouldn't qualify in your system because of the 8-10 conference record. However, if they had beaten Kansas State instead of Iowa, they would qualify despite having the same overall record but having beaten an inferior opponent. Personally, I don't care where the wins come from -- compare the wins to the schedule. 21 wins on Iowa's schedule is pretty damn good. Correct, they wouldn't qualify and I am 100% okay with that. I wouldn't care. Just like is you're 5-7 in college football and your 5 wins are Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Notre Dame and Oklahoma, you don't deserve a bowl bid. I really don't care. Life ain't fair. If you can't get to 9-9, tough luck and good luck in the NIT. Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 Andy Bottoms has Iowa State and Boise State both as 9 seeds. Iowa State Q1- 7-7 Q2- 0-2 Q3- 1-0 Q4- 8-0 Boise State Q1- 5-2 Q2- 3-3 Q3- 5-0 Q4- 5-1 His 8 seeds... Seton Hall Q1- 4-5, Q2- 3-2, Q3- 5-1, Q4- 2-0 Iowa Q1- 0-5, Q2- 5-2, Q3- 4-0, Q4- 8-0 Colorado State Q1- 3-2, Q2- 6-0, Q3- 4-1, Q4- 6-0 TCU Q1- 4-4, Q2- 3-2, Q3- 3-0, Q4- 6-0 After looking at this... Why is Iowa an 8 seed other than Keegan Murray? Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Correct, they wouldn't qualify and I am 100% okay with that. I wouldn't care. Just like is you're 5-7 in college football and your 5 wins are Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Notre Dame and Oklahoma, you don't deserve a bowl bid. I really don't care. Life ain't fair. If you can't get to 9-9, tough luck and good luck in the NIT. And I would say that if Memphis, Colorado State, or Boise State wanted to be in over Michigan State last year, they should have won more games against the schedule they played or taken care of business against the top teams they did play. Life ain't fair, and good luck to them in the NIT. You argue that putting a 9-11 Power 5 team is somehow 'watering the field down'....watering it down would be putting in teams that are worse than a 9-11 power 5 team because of an arbitrary rule. The bowl argument doesn't hold water because the .500 rule is for overall record, not conference record. Are you saying that if IU goes 7-5 in the regular season but 3-5 in the Big Ten, they shouldn't qualify but a 6-6 MAC team should as long as they went 4-4 in conference? Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 Just now, brumdog45 said: And I would say that if Memphis, Colorado State, or Boise State wanted to be in over Michigan State last year, they should have won more games against the schedule they played or taken care of business against the top teams they did play. Life ain't fair, and good luck to them in the NIT. You argue that putting a 9-11 Power 5 team is somehow 'watering the field down'....watering it down would be putting in teams that are worse than a 9-11 power 5 team because of an arbitrary rule. The bowl argument doesn't hold water because the .500 rule is for overall record, not conference record. Are you saying that if IU goes 7-5 in the regular season but 3-5 in the Big Ten, they shouldn't qualify but a 6-6 MAC team should as long as they went 4-4 in conference? What's the difference in putting Memphis in over Michigan State? Memphis could have lost to UCLA as well right? Colorado State or Memphis could have beaten UConn and gotten ran out of the gym by Alabama like Maryland right? There is zero proof that these power conference teams who can't win in conference are better than non power conference teams who get left out. In fact, there is proof those non power conference teams who get at large bids are better. Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Andy Bottoms has Iowa State and Boise State both as 9 seeds. Iowa State Q1- 7-7 Q2- 0-2 Q3- 1-0 Q4- 8-0 Boise State Q1- 5-2 Q2- 3-3 Q3- 5-0 Q4- 5-1 His 8 seeds... Seton Hall Q1- 4-5, Q2- 3-2, Q3- 5-1, Q4- 2-0 Iowa Q1- 0-5, Q2- 5-2, Q3- 4-0, Q4- 8-0 Colorado State Q1- 3-2, Q2- 6-0, Q3- 4-1, Q4- 6-0 TCU Q1- 4-4, Q2- 3-2, Q3- 3-0, Q4- 6-0 After looking at this... Why is Iowa an 8 seed other than Keegan Murray? FWIW, in my system: Iowa State is an 11 seed (41 overall) Boise State is an 8 seed (31 overall) Seton Hall is a 10 (40 overall) Iowa is a 12 seed (46 overall) Colorado State is a 5 seed (18 overall) TCU is a 9 seed (35 overall) My system doesn't like Iowa's resume (doesn't like Indiana's as well....currently a 12 seed and last in). There are some things I don't agree with the selection committee on, but they are pretty well established. There is one item of note -- quad 1 games do have 1a and 1b designations. Don't know the splits, but I believe Colorado State likely has not played in any 1a games. Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, brumdog45 said: FWIW, in my system: Iowa State is an 11 seed (41 overall) Boise State is an 8 seed (31 overall) Seton Hall is a 10 (40 overall) Iowa is a 12 seed (46 overall) Colorado State is a 5 seed (18 overall) TCU is a 9 seed (35 overall) My system doesn't like Iowa's resume (doesn't like Indiana's as well....currently a 12 seed and last in). There are some things I don't agree with the selection committee on, but they are pretty well established. There is one item of note -- quad 1 games do have 1a and 1b designations. Don't know the splits, but I believe Colorado State likely has not played in any 1a games. Iowa is 0-5 though lol. So I don't get their love in any resume comparisons. Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said: Iowa is 0-5 though lol. So I don't get their love in any resume comparisons. I don't either. I can tell you their efficiency numbers are very good (17th in the nation on Pom). That's a number I do not use in my evaluation of a team -- I strictly go with win totals v opponents played and location, not caring WHERE the victories came but how many they accumulated compared to schedule. For Iowa, I have their current schedule ranked as one that the minimum number of victories necessary to make the tournament would be 16.01; they have 17. IU I have 15.66 and they have 16. A team like Colorado State I have as easily in -- needing 15.17 wins and they have 19. Rico 1 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 Rothstein - Sources: There will be no Preseason NIT during the 22-23 season due to high volume in other early season college basketball tournaments. Rico 1 Quote
Rico Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 Isn't Iowa St. in last place in the Big 12? How in the hell do they get in? Loaded Chicken Sandwich 1 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 Toledo getting blown out of their own gym. Kent St up 16 at half. I’m taking them off the list to watch @johnsoniu johnsoniu 1 Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted February 15, 2022 Posted February 15, 2022 Weird stat, former Hoosiers Aljami Durham (Providence) and Armaan Franklin (Virginia) are shooting a combined 24.1% on 220 3-point attempts between the 2 this year after combining to shoot 42.9% on 126 3-point attempts in the B1G just last season. HoosierHoops1, HoosierAloha, craigyv88 and 2 others 5 Quote
johnsoniu Posted February 16, 2022 Posted February 16, 2022 Toledo getting blown out of their own gym. Kent St up 16 at half. I’m taking them off the list to watch [mention=1421]johnsoniu[/mention]I’m sitting here in stunned silence. Very disappointing, they’ve lost main tv status for awhile lol Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Uspshoosier 1 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted February 16, 2022 Posted February 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, johnsoniu said: I’m sitting here in stunned silence. Very disappointing, they’ve lost main tv status for awhile lol Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Main tv better be nova/providence until the IU game starts. This should be good. Game of the night on cbsports network johnsoniu 1 Quote
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