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7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Let's play 'on the other hand'.

When 13 out of 15 Dartmouth students decide to do this, you can bet your life that they have done extensive research, consulted attorneys, and well-understand the pros and cons of their decision. Doesn't mean they are guaranteed to be right; just that they have weighed the potential consequences.

Lots of people may tend to oversimplify all of the related issues to unionization.  Categorization of them vs. us is not the right way to look at this.  I am not saying anyone on this site is doing that.

It does come down to how we see an organization controlling and not respecting the workers vs. large amounts of dollars being centralized in order to do large investments and 'great' works and the resultant will to power (ie controlling others).  

What is really important is to listen with respect to what the others are saying.  I am not saying to agree.  Just try to understand their perspective.  Why are they saying and doing something differently?  What is the real reason?  It may not even be what they are saying.  They just may be...hurting, frustrated or struggling with coping.  

The answer usually is to reach out and truly partner.  We are in this together.  

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2 minutes ago, Dave from Dayton said:

Lots of people may tend to oversimplify all of the related issues to unionization.  Categorization of them vs. us is not the right way to look at this.  I am not saying anyone on this site is doing that.

It does come down to how we see an organization controlling and not respecting the workers vs. large amounts of dollars being centralized in order to do large investments and 'great' works and the resultant will to power (ie controlling others).  

What is really important is to listen with respect to what the others are saying.  I am not saying to agree.  Just try to understand their perspective.  Why are they saying and doing something differently?  What is the real reason?  It may not even be what they are saying.  They just may be...hurting, frustrated or struggling with coping.  

The answer usually is to reach out and truly partner.  We are in this together.  

Or,

  1. The players want money, and
  2. Think that being the first to take on an employment system, with accompanying national publicity, will look really impressive on their Ivy League law school applications.

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3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Or,

  1. The players want money, and
  2. Think that being the first to take on an employment system, with accompanying national publicity, will look really impressive on their Ivy League law school applications.

Yeah, that could be it, too.

When I learned what attorneys really are involved with...I wondered why in the heck would anyone really want to do that for a living or calling.  Handling other people's legal problems...they have to be kidding me.

But, then again, these are youngish people playing basketball and growing up.  My father-in-law would always say..."They are young.  What do they know?"  He was joking...and not joking. 

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6 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Let's play 'on the other hand'.

When 13 out of 15 Dartmouth students decide to do this, you can bet your life that they have done extensive research, consulted attorneys, and well-understand the pros and cons of their decision. Doesn't mean they are guaranteed to be right; just that they have weighed the potential consequences.

The Dartmouth decision will likely get overturned, but it doesn't matter. Legally, the writing is on the wall and all college athletes will be employees soon unless Congress is able to pass something. 

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