College Bball Thread

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

12 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Sure whatever you say but no one is justifying mediocrity.  Some can look at things objectively and realize that all programs go through the same things. Some others just look at the team they supposedly are fans of and think we are the only team with those problems.  I see people saying how we don't know how to face a zone just because some moron said so. Some just go with that theory because they want to have a reason to bash the coach. Like in 2016 where we lost to Syracuse people couldt believe how bad we did against their zone but they never look at that everyone that year struggled with their zone.

We were once a blue blood, elite program that expected excellent. We are a washed up, has been program who has refused to adjust to what must be done and how it must be done to compete in this millennium. Has UCLA, puke, UNC, and Kansas settled like Indiana has settled? Would any of those programs continue to do the same thing with IU's results the last two decades? We are an average-at-best Big 1.o program with the remnants of a blue blood program (banners, fans, funding).

I believe you meant 2013 when referencing Syracuse.

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

3 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

Did I hear right?  They are missing 4 starters today?

I didn’t think it was that bad but I missed the beginning of the game.  

[Ryno6284 2,645]

Aztecs win it 80-75

[IU Scott 2,375]

4 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

Did I hear right?  They are missing 4 starters today?

Also looks like they had a player on the sidelines with ice on his knee

[IU Scott 2,375]

Wonder if this is the earliest in the big ten conference season without an undefeated team. After only 4 games there are no more undefeated teams.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

13 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

I just take other things into consideration when viewing teams I guess.   Strange things happen during finals week for some teams and as this proved it happened a lot to some high majors during that period.  Not excusing it but there is a reason college coaches dread playing anyone that week.    Yep they lost on the road the next game after that.  Again for me that happens.     For as bad as they played in those games people should probably give them credit for how well they played against Big 12 leading Iowa st, ACC leading Clemson and a road win against seton hall.    Season is long and there is going to be ups and downs for almost every team.   Iowa had a really low point that they will pay the price for having. 

I could be off but believe their fall finals week game was against SEMO and the loss to E. Illinois was the week after finals. Unless Iowa has their finals later than almost all other schools. I guess we could say they started Christmas break early as an excuse though.

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

1 minute ago, HoosierAloha said:

I could be off but believe their fall finals week game was against SEMO and the loss to E. Illinois was the week after finals. Unless Iowa has their finals later than almost all other schools. I guess we could say they started Christmas break early as an excuse though.

12-21 was the game 

[Ryno6284 2,645]

Question for USPS, of the major conferences, who has the best refs?  I don't watch nearly as much as you, but I would say the Big East.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

Really glad we got Xavier when we did. Sean Miller has that team playing much better.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

12-21 was the game 

Possibly the SEMO game?

[Ryno6284 2,645]

Just now, HoosierAloha said:

Really glad we got Xavier when we did. Sean Miller has that team playing much better.

Yay, we got a break for once!

[Ryno6284 2,645]

Just now, HoosierAloha said:

Possibly the SEMO game?

I think he was saying students were gone and maybe the players were checked out mentally for Christmas?

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

12-21 was the game 

I guess people can do what they want as to whether the want to use it as an excuse or not.   That’s up to each person.   I just know college coaches hate these games and every year it bites teams in the butt.   This year got Iowa and some others.  Last year got some others and next year will get some others 

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

3 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Possibly the SEMO game?

Game before Christmas Break? 

[Ryno6284 2,645]

Nova not going away.

 

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

Just now, Ryno6284 said:

I think he was saying students were gone and maybe the players were checked out mentally for Christmas?

Yep

[IU Scott 2,375]

4 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

We were once a blue blood, elite program that expected excellent. We are a washed up, has been program who has refused to adjust to what must be done and how it must be done to compete in this millennium. Has UCLA, puke, UNC, and Kansas settled like Indiana has settled? Would any of those programs continue to do the same thing with IU's results the last two decades? We are an average-at-best Big 1.o program with the remnants of a blue blood program (banners, fans, funding).

I believe you meant 2013 when referencing Syracuse.

I know the history quit well and seen 3 national championships. I want to get back to that but we might not ever get back to that.  If you look early in the history of the sport where teams won big but never got back there. OSU won 2 championships in the early 60's and haven't won one since.

I still think our Conference hinders every team from being elite.  I think the style of play and how the game is played hinders the conference from getting elite talent.

Also when we were truly elite the game was way more regional and now it is national especially in recruiting.  We were able to get most of the  top recruits from a 3 states but now these kids go all across the country. With more and more games being on TV these players family can see them play.  With summer basketball these players are seen by every coach in the country. 

I guess I don't know what we are fans can do to change this because we really have no influence on anything. I have emailed AD before  about my unhappiness with the program and twice they actually fired the coach. It didn't help this year with the football program. I don't think the fans are settling for anything but I just don't see how bitching constantly about coaches and program changes anything.

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

5 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Possibly the SEMO game?

I assumed finals week was the same week as the game before Christmas break.   My apologies 

[IU Scott 2,375]

6 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Possibly the SEMO game?

I have heard coaches say the hardest week to get players attention is right before Christmas break and we saw some big upsets that week.

[Rico 3,028]

3 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

I know the history quit well and seen 3 national championships. I want to get back to that but we might not ever get back to that.  If you look early in the history of the sport where teams won big but never got back there. OSU won 2 championships in the early 60's and haven't won one since.

I still think our Conference hinders every team from being elite.  I think the style of play and how the game is played hinders the conference from getting elite talent.

Also when we were truly elite the game was way more regional and now it is national especially in recruiting.  We were able to get most of the  top recruits from a 3 states but now these kids go all across the country. With more and more games being on TV these players family can see them play.  With summer basketball these players are seen by every coach in the country. 

I guess I don't know what we are fans can do to change this because we really have no influence on anything. I have emailed AD before  about my unhappiness with the program and twice they actually fired the coach. It didn't help this year with the football program. I don't think the fans are settling for anything but I just don't see how bitching constantly about coaches and program changes anything.