College Bball Thread

[IU Scott 2,375]

1 minute ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Can't see any logic to having Penn State in and IU out.  Penn State has three losses -- two at home -- to teams not in your top 25 and zero wins against teams in your top 25.  Two of IU's losses are to teams you have ranked 3 and 5 and IU has a road win at a team you have ranked 15th.

He seems to have something against IU because he is the only one not to have us in the top 25

[RaceToTheTop 24,849]

2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

He seems to have something against IU because he is the only one not to have us in the top 25

I don't think he guages IU the same way he does other teams.  Then again, he's complained about teams with losing conference records making the tournament and he 6 Big 12 teams in the top 22.

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3 hours ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Can't see any logic to having Penn State in and IU out.  Penn State has three losses -- one at home, one neutral -- to teams not in your top 25 and zero wins against teams in your top 25.  Two of IU's losses are to teams you have ranked 3 and 5 and IU has a road win at a team you have ranked 15th.

 

3 hours ago, IU Scott said:

He seems to have something against IU because he is the only one not to have us in the top 25

I disregarded his rankings pretty quickly. He's either biased against IU or he's so set on appearing unbiased on regards to IU that he over emphasizes the bad and under values the positives.

UConn losing to Xavier barely hurt them but IU beating Xavier doesn't really help them. 

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23 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Can't see any logic to having Penn State in and IU out.  Penn State has three losses -- one at home, one neutral -- to teams not in your top 25 and zero wins against teams in your top 25.  Two of IU's losses are to teams you have ranked 3 and 5 and IU has a road win at a team you have ranked 15th.

Cool story bro. I took IU out weeks ago after getting destroyed by Kansas. Which clearly isn't just a "because they played at Kansas" deal. 

[TheWatShot 13,622]

4 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Cool story bro. I took IU out weeks ago after getting destroyed by Kansas. Which clearly isn't just a "because they played at Kansas" deal. 

Being angry at IU for not being as good as you hoped they would be is no reason to have them unranked right now. 

[HoosierX 1,521]

6 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Cool story bro. I took IU out weeks ago after getting destroyed by Kansas. Which clearly isn't just a "because they played at Kansas" deal. 

Just because you did that then, doesn’t make your rankings logical now.

[Uspshoosier 44,986]

Polls are mostly a snapshot of who the person voting feels is the 25 best teams at that point in time not necessarily the top 25 best resumes.   If someone had them low to begin with and they played terrible after that even against top level teams then for some people that would cause them to drop like some AP people have done to them just not enough of them to drop them out.      

[Uspshoosier 44,986]

https://collegepolltracker.com/basketball/team/indiana-hoosiers/2022
 

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6 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

Just because you did that then, doesn’t make your rankings logical now.

So I should have moved them back in without playing a game?

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6 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Polls are mostly a snapshot of who the person voting feels is the 25 best teams at that point in time not necessarily the top 25 best resumes.   If someone had them low to begin with and they played terrible after that even against top level teams then for some people that would cause them to drop like some AP people have done to them just not enough of them to drop them out.      

Bingo. I don't think many get how these Top 25s work. 

[RaceToTheTop 24,849]

16 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Cool story bro. I took IU out weeks ago after getting destroyed by Kansas. Which clearly isn't just a "because they played at Kansas" deal. 

'cool story bro' is the equivalent of 'I have no logical comeback'.

And the reason Penn State moved in after beating nobody was what?  Beating an unranked Iowa team by 4 at home?  Or was it the 9 point win against Quinnipiac that did it?

Anyone reading your posts in this forum knows that you aren't a fair judge of Indiana.

[RaceToTheTop 24,849]

7 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Bingo. I don't think many get how these Top 25s work. 

Considering that you have Penn State in your top 25, I think there is one more poster on here than you think that doesn't.

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11 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Being angry at IU for not being as good as you hoped they would be is no reason to have them unranked right now. 

That isn't the reason. More of the fact I had them at 22, they got destroyed by Kansas, they moved out, Iowa State and Illinois moved ahead of them and Miami, Kansas State and Marquette joined the Top 25 from 23-25. 

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2 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Considering that you have Penn State in your top 25, I think there is one more poster on here than you think that doesn't.

PSU is on a 5 game winning streak with a dominating win over Illinois and just beat Iowa. So they d been moving up. 

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1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

That isn't the reason. More of the fact I had them at 22, they got destroyed by Kansas, they moved out, Iowa State and Illinois moved ahead of them and Miami, Kansas State and Marquette joined the Top 25 from 23-25. 

61 voters in the AP poll.....not a single one has Penn State in their top 25.  Sorry you think it's a good take.

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1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

PSU is on a 5 game winning streak with a dominating win over Illinois and just beat Iowa. So they d been moving up. 

You don't consider Illinois or Iowa to be top 25 and the other 'impressive' wins were Canisius, Quinnipiac, and Delaware State.

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8 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

61 voters in the AP poll.....not a single one has Penn State in their top 25.  Sorry you think it's a good take.

I believe they got some votes in the coaches poll?

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28 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Polls are mostly a snapshot of who the person voting feels is the 25 best teams at that point in time not necessarily the top 25 best resumes.   If someone had them low to begin with and they played terrible after that even against top level teams then for some people that would cause them to drop like some AP people have done to them just not enough of them to drop them out.      

IU is in the top 25 of 59 of 61 poll voters.  The two voters who don't have IU in the top 25 have what the poll tracker lists as a ton of 'extreme picks' -- picks that are 5 or more spots from the teams actual overall vote.  One of them has 9 of his 25 teams as extreme picks -- including the nugget that Charleston should be ranked 14th and 2 spots ahead of Gonzaga.  The other guy has 8 of his 25 teams as extreme picks.  

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17 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

61 voters in the AP poll.....not a single one has Penn State in their top 25.  Sorry you think it's a good take.

Okay cool. 61 AP voters. Only two have IU out. Am I supposed to have the exact same opinion as everyone else? Does Penn State belong? Hell I don't know. Does Indiana? Maybe, maybe not. Does Illinois? Maybe. I don't know. Does Kentucky? Maybe. Why does it hurt your feelings that Indiana isn't in my poll? 

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,607]

4 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

IU is in the top 25 of 59 of 61 poll voters.  The two voters who don't have IU in the top 25 have what the poll tracker lists as a ton of 'extreme picks' -- picks that are 5 or more spots from the teams actual overall vote.  One of them has 9 of his 25 teams as extreme picks -- including the nugget that Charleston should be ranked 14th and 2 spots ahead of Gonzaga.  The other guy has 8 of his 25 teams as extreme picks.  

And your point is?