Uspshoosier Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 And that will skew their ranking for pretty much the rest of the year even though we know they are better than that and likely a Top 15 team. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appThey will be fine once they start playing real teams. They will finish with a top 15 NET if I had to guess. Florida came in at 78 and North Carolina came in at 94. One observation was duke had the most quad 1 wins with 4 however it looks like the home loss to SF Austin overshadowed them a little because they came in at 13. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 They will be fine once they start playing real teams. They will finish with a top 15 NET if I had to guess. Florida came in at 78 and North Carolina came in at 94. One observation was duke had the most quad 1 wins with 4 however it looks like the home loss to SF Austin overshadowed them a little because they came in at 13. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appUNC’s makes more sense with how they’ve struggled recently. But last year, Indiana never dropped outside the Top 100. That didn’t make any sense. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Uspshoosier Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 UNC’s makes more sense with how they’ve struggled recently. But last year, Indiana never dropped outside the Top 100. That didn’t make any sense. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appDoesn’t make sense to you but I see why they didn’t drop outside the top 100. No quad 3 or 4 losses. The B1G was represented well in the NET. They ended the year with 3 top 15 NET which bumped them up. They were as high as 16 when they were 12-2 and fell down into the 70’s. I would say that was a big drop for a power 5 team in conference play. Among B1G teams IU finished with the 9Th best NET out of 14 teams The NET penalized them plenty for losing even though they didn’t drop outside the top 100 Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app thebigweave and woodenshoemanHoosierfan 2 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 IU never fell out of the top 100 in any metric used last year RPI was the closest at they ended up 98 Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Doesn’t make sense to you but I see why they didn’t drop outside the top 100. No quad 3 or 4 losses. The B1G was represented well in the NET. They ended the year with 3 top 15 NET which bumped them up. They were as high as 16 when they were 12-2 and fell down into the 70’s. I would say that was a big drop for a power 5 team in conference play. Among B1G teams IU finished with the 9Th best NET out of 14 teams The NET penalized them plenty for losing even though they didn’t drop outside the top 100 Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI’d say after losing 12 of 13, you should drop not just out of the Top 100, but well out. And those losses included Nebraska, NW and Rutgers. That was a pathetic joke of the NET and showed just how biased it can be. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Uspshoosier Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Texas Tech down 5 at home to Southern Miss with 4 min to go in first half Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Uspshoosier Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 I’d say after losing 12 of 13, you should drop not just out of the Top 100, but well out. And those losses included Nebraska, NW and Rutgers. That was a pathetic joke of the NET and showed just how biased it can be. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appAgain no metric dropped them out of the top 100. Are they all biased?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app mamasa, Hollywood Mike Miranda and thebigweave 3 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Again no metric dropped them out of the top 100. Are they all biased?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appA system created by the NCAA, is one I’ll never trust when they won’t even release the algorithm. It’s just stupid to have set it as the #1 metric and always will be. No reason to not use NET, RPI, BPI, Sagarin, Kenpom and whatever other rating system all together and then use the eye test(which will always end up being best).Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
mdn82 Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Texas Tech struggling at home against Southern Miss. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
Uspshoosier Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 A system created by the NCAA, is one I’ll never trust when they won’t even release the algorithm. It’s just stupid to have set it as the #1 metric and always will be. No reason to not use NET, RPI, BPI, Sagarin, Kenpom and whatever other rating system all together and then use the eye test(which will always end up being best).Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appEveryone of the metrics you just mentioned is metrics the committee uses and none of them had IU drop out of their Top 100 last year. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Chips&Dipo, woodenshoemanHoosierfan and thebigweave 3 Quote
mdn82 Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Everyone of the metrics you just mentioned is metrics the committee uses and none of them had IU drop out of their Top 100 last year. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appYes but the eye test is not biased...Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app IUc2016, thebigweave and RatpigHoosier 3 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Everyone of the metrics you just mentioned is metrics the committee uses and none of them had IU drop out of their Top 100 last year. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appNever said they weren’t perfect. They have some screwball thrown in every year that doesn’t make any sense. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Uspshoosier Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/net-rankings-takeaways-big-ten-has-impressive-showing-and-the-secret-formula-is-still-favoring-this-metric/https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/net-rankings-debut-ohio-state-is-no-1-in-ncaas-official-metric-followed-by-kansas-and-san-diego-state/A couple articles on the NET rankings today Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
LIHoosier Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 I like to use the Massey composite; it only publishes once/week since he adds the AP/Coaches polls but it gives a nice comparison of what every wacky methodology thinks of teams. FYI, IU is 30th overall with a high of 15th and a low of 64th. https://www.masseyratings.com/cb/compare.htm Quote
Uspshoosier Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Never said they weren’t perfect. They have some screwball thrown in every year that doesn’t make any sense. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appSo it was a pathetic joke for all of the metrics not just the NET that none of them dropped IU out of the top 100 at all last year after losing 12 of 13 Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app thebigweave and Chips&Dipo 2 Quote
IUc2016 Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Yes but the eye test is not biased...Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appHaha joe talks about how the metrics used are biased and can’t be trusted. But then says the eye test is the best metric. That’s a classic even for his standards Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app RaceToTheTop, RatpigHoosier, HoosierAloha and 2 others 5 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Here you go Joe. Ncaa talking about your favorite metric Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Lunardi moved up IU to a 7 seed in his bracketology. Purdue dropped down to a 7 as well. mdn82, mamasa, Class of '66 Old Fart and 2 others 5 Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Lunardi moved up IU to a 7 seed in his bracketology. Purdue dropped down to a 7 as well.Purdue as a 7? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Loaded Chicken Sandwich Posted December 17, 2019 Posted December 17, 2019 Haha joe talks about how the metrics used are biased and can’t be trusted. But then says the eye test is the best metric. That’s a classic even for his standards Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appI said the NET was biased. Because it is towards P5 schools. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
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