johnsoniu Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Okie St ties it up with 51 seconds left. 14-0 run!! Quote
Hoosier1984 Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Oklahoma st pulls this out might open a spot that was taken away by St Mary’s winSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners HoosierCoop 1 Quote
Crimson and Cream Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe DeLow said: I’ll understand if we don’t make it. This team screwed themselves in January. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Right. But we're in the conversation because of the high quality wins we have and deservedly so. Dakich is just a bitter old fart (no offense to Old Fart) who wakes up every morning looking for a new way to bash IU. Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Crimson and Cream said: Right. But we're in the conversation because of the high quality wins we have and deservedly so. Dakich is just a bitter old fart (no offense to Old Fart) who wakes up every morning looking for a new way to bash IU. None taken. Agree with you 100% on Dakich. Crimson and Cream 1 Quote
Crimson and Cream Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe DeLow said: I’d say he is just giving fans a reality check. And plenty need it. We lose tomorrow and it is off to the NIT. And I can understand him saying we shouldn’t be in the conversation. Just like Texas, Oklahoma and TCU shouldn’t. But that’s just how the system works now and it is going to take people time to get used to the new standard that’s been created because of it. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I think most fans are very aware of the situation we're in. But him saying we shouldn't be in the conversation doesn't make it any less true. And doesn't he have some lamewad radio show to spew his ignorance on instead of a game between two ACC teams? Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 We probably shouldn’t be in the conversation yet. Sure we have those big wins, but we have a ton of loses. And that run of losing 12 of 13 killed this team. If it comes down to us and another and it is close, could come back to bite us. I mean, how many teams in the past have been “on the bubble” after losing 12 of 13?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appHow many teams in the past have been “on the bubble” after winning 6 Q1 wins and 3 of those wins being Q1a? If it comes down to us and another and it’s close from committees past doings I would feel very confident in IU making it in over that team. Now if part of the committees criteria was if you lose 12 of 13 then you are automatically disqualified for tournament consideration then IU wouldn’t have a chance but luckily the committee considers 31 games instead of only 13. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app thebigweave and Str8Hoosiers 2 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Gotta give him 4 years. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appGot to cry about given him 4 years Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app thebigweave 1 Quote
Hoosier Guy Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Joe DeLow said: We probably shouldn’t be in the conversation yet. Sure we have those big wins, but we have a ton of loses. And that run of losing 12 of 13 killed this team. If it comes down to us and another and it is close, could come back to bite us. I mean, how many teams in the past have been “on the bubble” after losing 12 of 13? Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app IU is in the conversation because the formula is different. If this were the old system, absolutely no way they get an at-large bid in the tournament. However, the old system is obsolete Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 IU is in the conversation because the formula is different. If this were the old system, absolutely no way they get an at-large bid in the tournament. However, the old system is obsoleteOnly reason they would be out of the conversation would be because their RPI would be in the 80s and no team over 70 got in and IU is 81 rpi. Always a chance they could of still got in with a 81 rpi because no team has ever been on the bubble with this many quality wins. That would of been interesting Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Str8Hoosiers 1 Quote
Hoosier Guy Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Only reason they would be out of the conversation would be because their RPI would be in the 80s and no team over 70 got in and IU is 81 rpi. Always a chance they could of still got in with a 81 rpi because no team has ever been on the bubble with this many quality wins. That would of been interesting Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I wouldn’t have liked the chances with the old system. They do have a lot of quality wins though. No doubt about it Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 But you’re saying they should focus on only 6 but that those 13 don’t matter?Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appNot saying that at all. Those 13 are taken into consideration just as the 6 quality wins are taken into consideration. The committees actions in the past show that the majority of the members value the 6 more then the 13. You would of been those members that focused on the 13 and more times then not got outvoted Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Hoosier Guy Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe DeLow said: And I’ve said that. I think it’ll take people time to get used to the new standards, what to expect and how the NET will be used and prioritized by the committee. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I think conference record should matter. That’s not how this new system works though Joe DeLow 1 Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I think conference record should matter. That’s not how this new system works thoughOld system didn’t either Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 You guys know the committee has always used a 4 quad system right? They just never called It quad and made a big deal about it Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners cchuntsman 1 Quote
Hoosier Guy Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said: Old system didn’t either Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Was RPI the main factor? Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 Was RPI the main factor?YepSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Uspshoosier Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 I feel the same. It’s a large chunk of the season. But that’s not a priority for whatever reason. Maybe next year it’ll be different. But the bubble is so weak this year it doesn’t even matter. Not sure what that means for CBB but it’s gotta get better from here. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appMeans nothing to CBB and it doesn’t gotta get better from here. Only thing that will happen is you will fall out of interest more and more each year and they will still get big television contracts and people like me will still watch bad many games as possible every year. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Str8Hoosiers 1 Quote
Hoosier Guy Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Joe DeLow said: I feel the same. It’s a large chunk of the season. But that’s not a priority for whatever reason. Maybe next year it’ll be different. But the bubble is so weak this year it doesn’t even matter. Not sure what that means for CBB but it’s gotta get better from here. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app If a team can’t win at least half of 20 conference games, I don’t think it should be a big player in the discussion Quote
RaceToTheTop Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 40 minutes ago, Joe DeLow said: I’d say he is just giving fans a reality check. And plenty need it. We lose tomorrow and it is off to the NIT. And I can understand him saying we shouldn’t be in the conversation. Just like Texas, Oklahoma and TCU shouldn’t. But that’s just how the system works now and it is going to take people time to get used to the new standard that’s been created because of it. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Except the old system saw 15 loss Vanderbilt and 15 loss Alabama make the tournament in the last two seasons. The problem with RPI wasn't really in its counting of losses. The problem was in its mind numbingly bad way of rating strength of schedule. By RPI standards, our SOS this year was 50th. Kenpom has it at 11, Sagarin has it at 13. Any reputable system puts us at about that level. Think about this: If we had won two more games and were 19-12, our RPI would raw rating would put us 52nd, one spot below......YALE, who lost four games in the Ivy league. Quote
Hoosier Guy Posted March 14, 2019 Posted March 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said: Yep Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Going to be an interesting weekend Quote
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