College Bball Thread

[ElectricBoogaloo 4,307]

4 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Colleges screw it up for both sides. The accused can be thrown out of school without due process. The accuser can have their accusation dismissed because the accused is someone important. Just let the police handed it. They're the ones trained to deal with these situations. 

They can’t just let the police handle it for a few reasons. Title IX is the obvious one. Stuhoo can probably chime in on the legal specifics. But the other reason is the police need a higher evidence threshold. They should have a higher one because the end result might be putting someone in jail. Universities have a lower evidence threshold because the worst they can do is expel a student. 

The vast majority of sexual assault/rape cases end up not being prosecuted because it’s a he said / she said situation. Schools should not be held to the same legal standard in order to keep their campuses safe. You can be expelled from school for a lot less than sexual assault, after all. 

[Hoosierfan2017 20,822]

25 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

They can’t just let the police handle it for a few reasons. Title IX is the obvious one. Stuhoo can probably chime in on the legal specifics. But the other reason is the police need a higher evidence threshold. They should have a higher one because the end result might be putting someone in jail. Universities have a lower evidence threshold because the worst they can do is expel a student. 

The vast majority of sexual assault/rape cases end up not being prosecuted because it’s a he said / she said situation. Schools should not be held to the same legal standard in order to keep their campuses safe. You can be expelled from school for a lot less than sexual assault, after all. 

Getting expelled from school is a pretty serious thing too. Schools should absolutely be held to a high standard on that. 

[ElectricBoogaloo 4,307]

24 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Getting expelled from school is a pretty serious thing too. Schools should absolutely be held to a high standard on that. 

And they are held to a high standard. Just not as high as criminal prosecution. 

[Hoosierfan2017 20,822]

8 minutes ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

And they are held to a high standard. Just not as high as criminal prosecution. 

Not high enough. Due process is important, especially when it comes to a life-altering event like getting expelled from school. Campus kangaroo courts are an absolute joke, but that's a discussion for another day. 

[mamasa 15,135]

Colleges screw it up for both sides. The accused can be thrown out of school without due process. The accuser can have their accusation dismissed because the accused is someone important. Just let the police handed it. They're the ones trained to deal with these situations. 

Here’s a perfect example if why you’re wrong- at an event today (let’s just say District 1) and student from another district (say District 2) started harassing my daughter’s 15 year old friend (he’s 16), saying things that would make Pitino blush, saying he was going to do lots of things. She was very upset, her mom called the police, as well as District 1 principal (who was here). Police called juvenile services. Even though the friend had it recorded on her phone, and literally a dozen witnesses, police/juvenile services did nothing, citing lack of tangible admissible proof. District 1 principal immediately called District 2 superintendent. Sexually abusive kid was immediately banned from all events here, and after superintendent heard everything, student is suspended pending expulsion. Would you rather have this potential rapist unpunished?


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[Hoosierfan2017 20,822]

4 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Here’s a perfect example if why you’re wrong- at an event today (let’s just say District 1) and student from another district (say District 2) started harassing my daughter’s 15 year old friend (he’s 16), saying things that would make Pitino blush, saying he was going to do lots of things. She was very upset, her mom called the police, as well as District 1 principal (who was here). Police called juvenile services. Even though the friend had it recorded on her phone, and literally a dozen witnesses, police/juvenile services did nothing, citing lack of tangible admissible proof. District 1 principal immediately called District 2 superintendent. Sexually abusive kid was immediately banned from all events here, and after superintendent heard everything, student is suspended pending expulsion. Would you rather have this potential rapist unpunished?


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I'm not interested in getting into a political discussion on here.. You and I obviously have very different opinions on this issue and neither of us is going to change the other's opinion, so it's probably best to just not get into it. 

[AKHoosier 6,739]

Let's go Mountaineers

[ElectricBoogaloo 4,307]

22 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Not high enough. Due process is important, especially when it comes to a life-altering event like getting expelled from school. Campus kangaroo courts are an absolute joke, but that's a discussion for another day. 

I don’t know where you get this idea that Title IX investigations don’t have due process. Schools get in trouble if they don’t give the accused due process (and rightly so). 

[LamarCheeks 17,930]

Anybody happen to see who hit a 3 at the buzzer for No. 24 Rhode Island today to beat Duquesne? Guy couldn't hit the broad side of a barn when he played in B-town! 

 

[Uspshoosier 44,987]

Kentucky with a needed road win. Knox was a beast


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[LIHoosier 25,758]

13 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Anybody happen to see who hit a 3 at the buzzer for No. 24 Rhode Island today to beat Duquesne? Guy couldn't hit the broad side of a barn when he played in B-town! 

 

It was the left hand all along. ;)

[Uspshoosier 44,987]

I remember max hoetzel(Montana) not wanting to guard bigs in his short time at IU. I’m watching unlv/San Diego st and they have him guarding Brandon McCoy. Lol.


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[dbmhoosier 851]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

Kentucky with a needed road win. Knox was a beast


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It's just comical seeing certain fanbases wanting a coach fired after he loses a certain game and then given a lifetime extension the next. 

[dbmhoosier 851]

Wait until PU loses in the Elite 8 or before. 

[Uspshoosier 44,987]

Upset alert in the mountain west tonight. Air Force up 1 over Boise St with 4 min to play


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[mdn82 25,510]

Didn’t see this video until now of Allen.

https://streamable.com/k1fgb


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[ElectricBoogaloo 4,307]

1 hour ago, mdn82 said:

Didn’t see this video until now of Allen.

https://streamable.com/k1fgb


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Coach K doesn't care. I remember his punishment last year of being suspended "indefinitely" (aka one game). 

Remind you of anyone?

[IUHAHN81 2,176]

I swear someone tripped Allen as a small child and he cannot let it go.  Talk about it man! Quit holding the anger in and taking it out on other bball players. Kids got problems.  Smh.

[OliviaPope40 6,424]

8 hours ago, IUHAHN82 said:

I swear someone tripped Allen as a small child and he cannot let it go.  Talk about it man! Quit holding the anger in and taking it out on other bball players. Kids got problems.  Smh.

Or just has always had that competitive nature that rubs people the wrong way from time to time. Now I don't necessarily have a Psych degree but whatever is could be explained in many ways.

[Stuhoo 79,574]

Or just has always had that competitive nature that rubs people the wrong way from time to time. Now I don't necessarily have a Psych degree but whatever is could be explained in many ways.

No, pretty much the only way it can be explained is that he regularly sticks his leg out and deliberately trips people.


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