College Bball Thread

[Stuhoo 90,585]

6 minutes ago, Demo said:

 

Happy for Ya. Always liked him and Woody screwed him pretty good. I’d take that job over LSU in a second.

Waaaaaait a second.

Ya was officially hired as an LSU assistant just three months ago. So something happened - something went wrong. Unless he had a special clause in his LSU contract that allowed him to immediately leave for Oregon (his alma mater). And I have no idea why LSU would sign him for that if there was a chance that Altman could immediately poach. This would be the equivalent of Kenny Johnson leaving IU this week to become an assistant at Maryland, his alma mater. If that happened I'd be more than a little suspicious (it won't happen).

I hate to be that guy, but I'm not sure that Ya was or wasn't a positive at IU, and I'm not sure this move after three months isn't a red flag.

Tell me why it's all okay! Having a ton of trouble with this.

[Hovadipo 61,784]

14 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Waaaaaait a second.

Ya was officially hired as an LSU assistant just three months ago. So something happened - something went wrong. Unless he had a special clause in his LSU contract that allowed him to immediately leave for Oregon (his alma mater). And I have no idea why LSU would sign him for that if there was a chance that Altman could immediately poach. This would be the equivalent of Kenny Johnson leaving IU this week to become an assistant at Maryland, his alma mater. If that happened I'd be more than a little suspicious (it won't happen).

I hate to be that guy, but I'm not sure that Ya was or wasn't a positive at IU, and I'm not sure this move after three months isn't a red flag.

Tell me why it's all okay! Having a ton of trouble with this.

The reason why it’s all okay is because he (and everyone else on that godforsaken staff) isn’t our problem anymore. 

[Stuhoo 90,585]

5 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

The reason why it’s all okay is because he (and everyone else on that godforsaken staff) isn’t our problem anymore. 

It's hard to confirm that anyone on the former staff wasn't part of the problem. Maybe Jordy, who is new to the industry. Surely others, but who really knows.

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,699]

2 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

It's hard to confirm that anyone on the former staff wasn't part of the problem. Maybe Jordy, who is new to the industry.

Staff was clearly not on the same page.  Ya can really recruit.  I think he’s got good ball instincts too.  Solid, solid pick up for Oregon in my opinion but time will tell.  Curious how Altman and him will vibe.  

[Hovadipo 61,784]

6 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

It's hard to confirm that anyone on the former staff wasn't part of the problem. Maybe Jordy, who is new to the industry. Surely others, but who really knows.

Even our most beloved Jordy is guilty by association. Those guys stunk. 

(I could be talking about the past IUBB staff AND Assembly Ball TBT team here)

[Stuhoo 90,585]

1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Staff was clearly not on the same page.  Ya can really recruit.  I think he’s got good ball instincts too.  Solid, solid pick up for Oregon in my opinion but time will tell.  Curious how Altman and him will vibe.  

You and me are switching 'cynic/optimist' profiles on this one, Doc.

For me? Ya was a good recruiter when quietly delivering a bag was a method toward good recruiting. Now? the market determines pay and Ya seems to have delivered more than a couple of guys who were at IU primarily to collect a paycheck; not to contribute to a team and become part of a university.

[Demo 24,469]

21 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Waaaaaait a second.

Ya was officially hired as an LSU assistant just three months ago. So something happened - something went wrong. Unless he had a special clause in his LSU contract that allowed him to immediately leave for Oregon (his alma mater). And I have no idea why LSU would sign him for that if there was a chance that Altman could immediately poach. This would be the equivalent of Kenny Johnson leaving IU this week to become an assistant at Maryland, his alma mater. If that happened I'd be more than a little suspicious (it won't happen).

I hate to be that guy, but I'm not sure that Ya was or wasn't a positive at IU, and I'm not sure this move after three months isn't a red flag.

Tell me why it's all okay! Having a ton of trouble with this.

He’s not replacing anyone as nearly as I can tell. Looks like they just created a seat for him. No clue what the circumstances are but  it may be as simple as him getting down there and realizing McMahon’s in even worse  trouble than he thought, and I think that dude’s dead man walking, and him just trolling for lifelines rather than having to do it all again next offseason. 

[Stuhoo 90,585]

5 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

Even our most beloved Jordy is guilty by association. Those guys stunk. 

(I could be talking about the past IUBB staff AND Assembly Ball TBT team here)

If only Milly K wasn't still absolutely tearing it up in the Summer League and was Assembly Ball-ing out on Saturday, we would have destroyed those two bit punks from (checks notes) "Fail Harder."

[RaceToTheTop 31,541]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Staff was clearly not on the same page.  Ya can really recruit.  I think he’s got good ball instincts too.  Solid, solid pick up for Oregon in my opinion but time will tell.  Curious how Altman and him will vibe.  

I would assume if that Woody hadn't gotten fired, he would have lost Ya to Oregon as well.  Sounds like he wants to be at his alma mater.

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,699]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

You and me are switching 'cynic/optimist' profiles on this one, Doc.

For me? Ya was a good recruiter when quietly delivering a bag was a method toward good recruiting. Now? the market determines pay and Ya seems to have delivered more than a couple of guys who were at IU primarily to collect a paycheck; not to contribute to a team and become part of a university.

Yeah, I guess we are.  I’m glad to have moved on from the past regime in basically every way.  However I think Woody had his ways about him and lacked a clear and concise plan for all things. That includes from recruting, team building, and on court stuff from practices to games. I think Ya can be a beneficial good cop coach. He connects well with kids imo.  I could be completely off, but I  think if he’s a guy on a demanding staff he can be a good buddy coach. To me Woody gets the blame. I guess if Ya was our shooting guard scout, he can take the blame too, because no one on the staff could pick the qualities of a SG we needed.   

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,699]

26 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I would assume if that Woody hadn't gotten fired, he would have lost Ya to Oregon as well.  Sounds like he wants to be at his alma mater.

Yeah, the assistant coach is an extension of the head coach.  Hard to assess the individual coaches when the head coach is failing.  Walsh was trying to bail a year before.  They knew.  The huddles were my earliest sign of the dysfunction.  No authority figures.  Just players and random coaches yelling at each other.  Oh, the horror.  

[ebridges24 2,761]

22 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

You and me are switching 'cynic/optimist' profiles on this one, Doc.

For me? Ya was a good recruiter when quietly delivering a bag was a method toward good recruiting. Now? the market determines pay and Ya seems to have delivered more than a couple of guys who were at IU primarily to collect a paycheck; not to contribute to a team and become part of a university.

His analysis of players is clearly in question.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 92,661]

This is just wrong.

[TheWatShot 15,580]

3 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

This is just wrong.

We once had a recruit ruled ineligible because he played two minutes in a game with professionals. Times sure have changed. 

[Demo 24,469]

5 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

This is just wrong.

https://www.rockytopinsider.com/2025/07/23/international-tennessee-commit-ethan-burg-granted-multiple-years-of-eligibility/
 

Here’s the story. Apparently UT was afraid he might not get any eligibility at all and were only hoping for 2 years at the outside.

But Luke Goode played 10 games at the end of a season instead of the beginning, so screw him.

[jermhoosierfan 396]

25 minutes ago, Demo said:

https://www.rockytopinsider.com/2025/07/23/international-tennessee-commit-ethan-burg-granted-multiple-years-of-eligibility/
 

Here’s the story. Apparently UT was afraid he might not get any eligibility at all and were only hoping for 2 years at the outside.

But Luke Goode played 10 games at the end of a season instead of the beginning, so screw him.

And you wonder why there have been rumblings the last few years of the P4 breaking away from the NCAA to start their own league.  The NCAA really needs to be more consistent with their rulings and not be so scared of being sued anymore.

[Demo 24,469]

3 minutes ago, jermhoosierfan said:

And you wonder why there have been rumblings the last few years of the P4 breaking away from the NCAA to start their own league.  The NCAA really needs to be more consistent with their rulings and not be so scared of being sued anymore.

I’ll go to my grave on this: forget years, age is the factor. Give players unlimited eligibility until the day they turn 25 and their eligibility ends that day. No exceptions or cutouts. If they reclass and start at 17, fine give them 8 years. And they get 1 free transfer on their own and another whenever a HC leaves and other than that they sit a year and it counts within their eligibility window. There, just took 150 pages of the NCAA handbook and distilled it down to 5 sentences. And the lawyers around here will tell me why that’s a legal nonstarter, and I’m sure they’re right, but this is such a cluster and the NCAA has to find a way at to simplify this joke they’ve created.

[Demo 24,469]

https://www.on3.com/college/usc-trojans/news/alijah-arenas-injury-update-usc-star-suffers-torn-meniscus-will-potentially-miss-2025-2026-season-per-report/
 

USC freshman Alijah Arenas suffers a meniscus tear. Given that he was almost certainly going to be a 1 year kid I doubt seriously if he’ll play this year now even if he can. 

[Stuhoo 90,585]

28 minutes ago, Demo said:

https://www.on3.com/college/usc-trojans/news/alijah-arenas-injury-update-usc-star-suffers-torn-meniscus-will-potentially-miss-2025-2026-season-per-report/
 

USC freshman Alijah Arenas suffers a meniscus tear. Given that he was almost certainly going to be a 1 year kid I doubt seriously if he’ll play this year now even if he can. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 92,661]

Borzello -

Kansas coach Bill Self was hospitalized Thursday after experiencing “some concerning symptoms,” the school said. He underwent a procedure to have two stents inserted and is expected to make a full recovery.

Story from On3 - https://www.on3.com/college/kansas-jayhawks/news/bill-self-hospitalized-undergoes-heart-procedure-concerning-symptoms/