Oumar Ballo (7'0" C) TO INDIANA

[Lebowski 2,440]

1 hour ago, Feathery said:

Not sure how this works but couldn’t he just get paid his NIL deal on a lump sum on the Bahamas? They would be out of the country and outside of any foreign student issues. Maybe he goes back home this summer for a week and gets paid NIL while there. I doubt we ever hear how it was done but take schools have figured it out. 

He most likely got his bank through the passive method. I'm leaning more towards a "licensing revenue" way if that makes sense. This is where he can grant permission to third parties, such as apparel vendors, to use his NIL on clothing and on other merchandise. Compare it to when you buy computer software. You purchase the licensing agreements with the copyright holders of the software. Oscar Tshiebwe was able to bank $20k a month this way in just apparel sales.

Regarding the lump sum, just so long as it's deemed a passive engagement he can bank in the US. 

[JSHoosier 19,826]

Goodman said he heard from multiple coaches the asking price for Ballo was 1.2m.

[Hoosier2014 289]

11 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Goodman said he heard from multiple coaches the asking price for Ballo was 1.2m.

1.2m to get him away from IN. We got a discount at 1m unless we forked up some more with the Arkansas visit rumor (smart play by his agent if true).

[Golfman25 5,004]

14 hours ago, Lebowski said:

Isn't he in the states on a F-1 visa aka student visa? If that's the case, I am skeptical with the numbers being thrown because he can only earn from passive deals (i.e. Ballo gives EA Sports license to use his NIL) or active deals (things such as posting on social media,  appearing at an event, or signing an autograph) outside of the US. What kind of passive deal would he get for the numbers being thrown around? 

I would need to do more research on it, but isn't NIL by definition "passive."  I mean it's not like these guys are waiting tables or doing construction -- i.e.; taking us normal folks jobs.  I suppose there are a lot of regulatory weeds to walk around in to figure out how to play it.  

[Lebowski 2,440]

47 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

I would need to do more research on it, but isn't NIL by definition "passive."  I mean it's not like these guys are waiting tables or doing construction -- i.e.; taking us normal folks jobs.  I suppose there are a lot of regulatory weeds to walk around in to figure out how to play it.  

Source:

Active NIL engagements require the labor of athletes. This can be any form of service or work by the athlete in the engagement—things such as posting on social media, appearing at an event, or signing an autograph. These NIL activations are the most common in the industry, as brands and collectives have increasingly turned student-athletes towards participation in the influencer economy.

Passive NIL engagements leverage the influence of the athlete without requiring any labor on the athlete’s end. The group licensing payments for the upcoming EA Sports NCAA Football video game can best illustrate this type of engagement. In exchange for financial considerations, student-athletes give EA Sports a license to use their name, image, likeness, voice, and jersey number in the game.  No labor comes from the student-athlete, and therefore, no violation of their student visa has occurred.



Based on that article I linked this is how I understand the differences between the two. I could be wrong though. 

Passive Examples:
You buy the athlete's jersey at Dicks because the athlete signed a licensed deal to allow it. You play the athlete on EA Sports College Football 25. 

Active Examples: 
So while the athlete isn't waiting tables per se he is signing the jersey you just bought at Dicks or posting an ad of him on the cover of EA Sports College Football 25 on his social media account, or running a summer camp during the offseason, or in a local commercial slinging a product, or is the guest speaker at a corporate event. 

So I think there are so much more opportunity for the athlete to maximize there worth/value with active engagements. Especially if they're able to combine the two together, like at a jersey signing or what have you. It allows the athlete to do the George Costanza and 'double dip' if that makes sense. 

[Golfman25 5,004]

2 hours ago, Lebowski said:

Source:

Active NIL engagements require the labor of athletes. This can be any form of service or work by the athlete in the engagement—things such as posting on social media, appearing at an event, or signing an autograph. These NIL activations are the most common in the industry, as brands and collectives have increasingly turned student-athletes towards participation in the influencer economy.

Passive NIL engagements leverage the influence of the athlete without requiring any labor on the athlete’s end. The group licensing payments for the upcoming EA Sports NCAA Football video game can best illustrate this type of engagement. In exchange for financial considerations, student-athletes give EA Sports a license to use their name, image, likeness, voice, and jersey number in the game.  No labor comes from the student-athlete, and therefore, no violation of their student visa has occurred.



Based on that article I linked this is how I understand the differences between the two. I could be wrong though. 

Passive Examples:
You buy the athlete's jersey at Dicks because the athlete signed a licensed deal to allow it. You play the athlete on EA Sports College Football 25. 

Active Examples: 
So while the athlete isn't waiting tables per se he is signing the jersey you just bought at Dicks or posting an ad of him on the cover of EA Sports College Football 25 on his social media account, or running a summer camp during the offseason, or in a local commercial slinging a product, or is the guest speaker at a corporate event. 

So I think there are so much more opportunity for the athlete to maximize there worth/value with active engagements. Especially if they're able to combine the two together, like at a jersey signing or what have you. It allows the athlete to do the George Costanza and 'double dip' if that makes sense. 

Yeah, but that really isn't what's happening.  Their "value" is based on their basketball skills and the coach's need, not their marketability.  There is no profit motive on the other side.   Actively, they aren't doing a whole lot -- maybe a "fan meet and greet" or something.  Couldn't the "collective" just put the guy's face on a billboard and say "Players Name support us, You should too."  Then give him is $1,000,000.  

I guess what I am saying, for the "friends of the program" collectives, it's a sham.  Not based on marketing value.  Unlike a local Dairy Queen paying Leal to show up for a "Chill" promotion.  Owner might pay Leal a few grand, thinking he'll bring in 3X that much business.  Probably pay TJD more, cause people love him more.  

[Class of '66 Old Fart 83,945]

[Scotty R 2,127]

28 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

I am sorry but looking at that list shows a lack big time talent in the league 

[PartyintheVillas 36]

26 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

I am sorry but looking at that list shows a lack big time talent in the league 

This is just the lazy journalist taking no risks and going with "top returners" plus the top transfer who was a P5 first team all-conference selection last year to get content out. Plenty of transfers and top freshman to choose from with more talent.

[Hoosierfanyuh 2,148]

8 minutes ago, PartyintheVillas said:

This is just the lazy journalist taking no risks and going with "top returners" plus the top transfer who was a P5 first team all-conference selection last year to get content out. Plenty of transfers and top freshman to choose from with more talent.

Youre right to a point, but the centers in the league excluding goldin and Ballo are pretty weak. 

[Stuhoo 79,708]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

He left out anyone from UCLA and Oregon, both of which can be top five teams in the league.

[Hoosier DaDa 2,124]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

First glancing at this list I thought WTH is Payton Sparks doing on it LOL.