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  On 4/11/2025 at 2:34 AM, TTT said:

Waiting for Williams/Wisky

Williams supposedly visited Storrs, CT; and being followed on social media by Azzi Fudd & KK Arnold: https://the-boneyard.com/threads/2025-transfer-wish-list.206893/page-3#post-5255431

Would she play much at UConn? Not a sure thing at all. Would she play much at IU? Sure thing to the max.

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  On 4/11/2025 at 8:30 AM, mickey one said:

Williams supposedly visited Storrs, CT; and being followed on social media by Azzi Fudd & KK Arnold: https://the-boneyard.com/threads/2025-transfer-wish-list.206893/page-3#post-5255431

Would she play much at UConn? Not a sure thing at all. Would she play much at IU? Sure thing to the max.

There are those programs that elite players go to and are willing to set on the bench for a while and share playing time with teammates and grow in their respective systems.  It’s called always having a chance to win conference championships, national championships and highly ranked each year.  And now getting NIL money.  (Ashlynn Shade, Ayanna Patterson are two recent (within last 4 or 5 years) and Kelly Farris WNBA 11th pick 2010-2013 from Heritage Christian/Indiana examples even before NIL became such a big deal.  Indiana worked to recruit these players making top 5 only to have UCONN step in and all the Indiana effort down the drain.  These are just a couple examples. South Carolina and UCONN are like kids in a candy store.  
Not nearly to that extent but there now are other programs that are more cohesive and competitive to get a higher number of really high level players (borderline elite) which NIL helping those teams alot to put together talent in their respective system.

It was fun to watch IU Ladies take a step by step process though somewhat slow but always growing to significant…..and then currently becoming insignificant (after making march madness and winning 20 games) because currently there is not enough there.  (it also seems some of the verbal philosophy of working hard, hours in the gym after practice, Indiana is not for everyone, looking for that particular player that fits in every public appearance and or post game, and continually talking about it is hard to replace a couple All American players (admitting to lack of recruiting success and having high level players to step up)…..might want to rethink that approach in thinking and especially making it public.  (Most coaches want their players to work hard etc but don’t publicly continually make it the focal point….rather it flows from players kind of more naturally).  (It’s admirable that IU coaching staff trying to build lesser talent players 3 stars and even below up at the level they are trying to play at has led to disappointment and some disillusionment).

UCONN coach when recruiting Ayanna Patterson let her know he had coached many players of her caliber…it was no big deal to him.

 

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Update: NIL situation may be improving although heard both ways on this from a couple different people. However, proof will be in pudding if IU can get visits and lure in some better prospects than we have seen so far. 

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The "student-athlete' model is totally broken.  We now have professional sports with no rules.  Winning has simply become a matter of which schools can convince enough rich alumni to kick in NIL dollars.
I will continue to support IU Women's basketball, simply because I always have, and the girls appreciate support way more than the men's teams do.
I will also support next year's IU basketball team because they will have so many Indiana high school stalwarts ready, willing, and able to wear candy stripes.  But talking about final 4s and such nonsense for IU has now become a waste of time unless and until we get some rich dude or dudes willing to kick in millions of dollars to hire mercenaries to win ball games.
I HATE what has happened to college sports.  Thanks NCAA.  Well done!
Rant over.....

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  On 4/11/2025 at 3:58 PM, Aaron said:

Update: NIL situation may be improving although heard both ways on this from a couple different people. However, proof will be in pudding if IU can get visits and lure in some better prospects than we have seen so far. 

What do you mean by “hearing both ways”? 

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  On 4/11/2025 at 4:48 PM, NatHillIV said:

The "student-athlete' model is totally broken.  We now have professional sports with no rules.  Winning has simply become a matter of which schools can convince enough rich alumni to kick in NIL dollars.
I will continue to support IU Women's basketball, simply because I always have, and the girls appreciate support way more than the men's teams do.
I will also support next year's IU basketball team because they will have so many Indiana high school stalwarts ready, willing, and able to wear candy stripes.  But talking about final 4s and such nonsense for IU has now become a waste of time unless and until we get some rich dude or dudes willing to kick in millions of dollars to hire mercenaries to win ball games.
I HATE what has happened to college sports.  Thanks NCAA.  Well done!
Rant over.....

1000%.  Though far from what one would call close to perfect.  All the things mentioned above and myself and others have noted think about the so called college student in major college sports vs the traditional college.  Athletes do take classes online like others and during off seasons,  and while traveling etc but it is far from what was the traditional college athlete….unconnected…..just business transactions.

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  On 4/11/2025 at 5:30 PM, Beepboop said:

What do you mean by “hearing both ways”? 

I mean I had a couple people now tell me NIL situation is improving in last couple of days while a couple of others telling me it is still not great. Until the last couple of days I had heard nothing but that NIL situation was not great. 

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No one is safe from portal madness. Even South Carolina's star MiLaysia Fulwiley just entered portal:

https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/sports/college/usc/2025/04/11/milaysia-fulwiley-transfer-portal-south-carolina-womens-basketball-dawn-staley/83045762007/

Granted they got FSU star Ta'Niya Latson who is best player in portal and plays same position but still shows best teams can't stack talent as easily now.

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  On 4/11/2025 at 6:27 PM, TTT said:

MiLaysia Fulwiley/South Carolina now in transfer portal.

Good for her. A real talent, and doesn't even start (neither does Joyce Edwards, who was All-SEC)! That South Carolina situation is nuts--stockpiling talent to make up for Dawn Staley's average coaching, and they still can't get it done.

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  On 4/11/2025 at 4:48 PM, NatHillIV said:

The "student-athlete' model is totally broken.  We now have professional sports with no rules.  Winning has simply become a matter of which schools can convince enough rich alumni to kick in NIL dollars.
I will continue to support IU Women's basketball, simply because I always have, and the girls appreciate support way more than the men's teams do.
I will also support next year's IU basketball team because they will have so many Indiana high school stalwarts ready, willing, and able to wear candy stripes.  But talking about final 4s and such nonsense for IU has now become a waste of time unless and until we get some rich dude or dudes willing to kick in millions of dollars to hire mercenaries to win ball games.
I HATE what has happened to college sports.  Thanks NCAA.  Well done!
Rant over.....

Agree 100%. There needs to be a "salary cap" and NIL figures should be published. In the "old days", if an alum supporter bought a car for or made payments to a prospect, that was totally verboten. NOW, it is the way things are done, but it's hidden from the public. System broken. Needs to be fixed.

Edited by mickey one
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  On 4/11/2025 at 4:48 PM, NatHillIV said:

The "student-athlete' model is totally broken.  We now have professional sports with no rules.  Winning has simply become a matter of which schools can convince enough rich alumni to kick in NIL dollars.
I will continue to support IU Women's basketball, simply because I always have, and the girls appreciate support way more than the men's teams do.
I will also support next year's IU basketball team because they will have so many Indiana high school stalwarts ready, willing, and able to wear candy stripes.  But talking about final 4s and such nonsense for IU has now become a waste of time unless and until we get some rich dude or dudes willing to kick in millions of dollars to hire mercenaries to win ball games.
I HATE what has happened to college sports.  Thanks NCAA.  Well done!
Rant over.....

And, by the way, Geno Auriemma himself says it is broken. It has become about money, but people won't admit it. He said: "you don't fly 3,000 miles for a conference game if it is not about money."

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  On 4/11/2025 at 6:30 PM, mickey one said:

Good for her. A real talent, and doesn't even start (neither does Joyce Edwards, who was All-SEC)! That South Carolina situation is nuts--stockpiling talent to make up for Dawn Staley's average coaching, and they still can't get it done.

3 national championships and runner up this year and rankings and conference championships is getting it done. 

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ESPN says Yardon Garzon is the #5 transfer in the entire women's basketball portal.
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/44575312/women-ncaa-basketball-transfer-portal-player-rankings-2025-26-season
Not sure how that makes me feel.

Edited by NatHillIV
typed "portal" twice in a row, had to drop one of them

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  On 4/12/2025 at 1:37 AM, NatHillIV said:

ESPN says Yardon Garzon is the #5 transfer in the entire women's basketball portal.
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/44575312/women-ncaa-basketball-transfer-portal-player-rankings-2025-26-season
Not sure how that makes me feel.

Yes, Garzon is a skilled high level player.  She should forever be indebted to coach T. Moren and staff for developing her into the player she is today, taking not good but great care of her, and I think she started every game, and allowing her freedom to shoot and play to become the player she is.  T. Moren discovered Garzon from information she received when Garzon was playing in Fort Wayne Indiana at a summer AAU or  under age or something like that.  Who knows what kind of player Garzon would have been if she hadn’t gotten the opportunity from Indiana.  It was master class by T. Moren.

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  On 4/12/2025 at 3:33 AM, TTT said:

Yes, Garzon is a skilled high level player.  She should forever be indebted to coach T. Moren and staff for developing her into the player she is today, taking not good but great care of her, and I think she started every game, and allowing her freedom to shoot and play to become the player she is.  T. Moren discovered Garzon from information she received when Garzon was playing in Fort Wayne Indiana at a summer AAU or  under age or something like that.  Who knows what kind of player Garzon would have been if she hadn’t gotten the opportunity from Indiana.  It was master class by T. Moren.

Agree. CTM was kind of a miracle worker in that respect . . . which is why you hope she could do the same thing for a Phoenix Stotijn or Valentyna Kadlecova or (is she still on the board?) Laura Ziegler (from Denmark/St. Joe's). If you can't win all the conventional recruiting battles, then look for sleepers or Luka or Nikola-type players, whom everyone else overlooked.

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