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IUWBB vs Iowa - Thursday, 02.22.24 @ 8:00 on Peacock

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After what happened Monday, the importance of this game can't be overstated.  IMO, let Clark get hers but make damn sure you clamp down on everyone else.  Need to win out the regular season and hope some of the expected top seeds get knocked off to have a chance at hosting any first round games.  Definitely not comparing IUWBB with IUBB but it is concerning that 3 of our 4 losses have been pretty ugly.  Revenge starts on Thursday.

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You want any chance of hosting NCAA Tournament games? Win this. NET feel to 17 after yesterday. If you lose probably need to win Big Ten Tourney to host as NET will fall to 20 and only way it gets back to top 15 and hosting is going all the way in Minny with a couple signature wins over Hawkeyes and Buckeyes.

With a win, your NET probably goes back to 14-15 and if you can blow out Northwestern by 20 or more and beat Maryland by double digits, probably back at 11-12. As long as you don't take a bad loss Friday in conference tourney, your NET stays right there regardless of Saturday if it is close and that is good for at least a 4. 

More than anything though, despite 6 Quad one wins over tourney teams and no losses in quads 2, 3, or 4, best win is over a projected seven seed at home. I can almost guarantee you the reason IU was a 15 seed in first reveal despite NET being a few spots higher, is lack of win over a team that is in top-16 and hosting. Beat Iowa and that problem goes away and your seeding likely matches NET going forward.    

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4 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

I just can't get over how we've won 84% of our games and yet we're looking at a decent possibility of not hosting a first round game. 

I can.

When you don't beat anyone higher than a projected seven seed you don't host. Beat Iowa (either this Thu or Sat. in Minneapolis which is 99% likely to be matchup then) and you take care of that problem and will host if you don't slip up against anyone else (NW, Maryland, and Fri Big Ten opponent) between them. 1-1 vs. Iowa and 3-0 against the rest will do the trick. 0-2 against Iowa or another loss in the other three and you don't host without winning Big Ten Tourney. 

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53 minutes ago, Aaron said:

I can.

When you don't beat anyone higher than a projected seven seed you don't host. Beat Iowa (either this Thu or Sat. in Minneapolis which is 99% likely to be matchup then) and you take care of that problem and will host if you don't slip up against anyone else (NW, Maryland, and Fri Big Ten opponent) between them. 1-1 vs. Iowa and 3-0 against the rest will do the trick. 0-2 against Iowa or another loss in the other three and you don't host without winning Big Ten Tourney. 

I keep going back to our non-conference slate. Why did we only schedule 10 games, and why were only 3 of them against quality opponents? I would have liked to see 1-2 more marquee matchups. Not having the Big Ten/ACC Challenge took one away from us. 

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37 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

I keep going back to our non-conference slate. Why did we only schedule 10 games, and why were only 3 of them against quality opponents? I would have liked to see 1-2 more marquee matchups. Not having the Big Ten/ACC Challenge took one away from us. 

Can't disagree there.

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12 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

I keep going back to our non-conference slate. Why did we only schedule 10 games, and why were only 3 of them against quality opponents? I would have liked to see 1-2 more marquee matchups. Not having the Big Ten/ACC Challenge took one away from us. 

I was also surprised we did not try to replace the ACC game with a marquee game as well.  

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I think it's the women's turn to wear those goofy "Fear of God" uniforms.

Which means we'll be wearing black and Iowa will likely wear gold. And the fans have been told to wear white. It'll look like an Iowa home game. LOL. 

Can't we get some red in there somewhere -- besides the numbers on our jerseys that you can barely see on TV anyway?

 

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2 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

I think it's the women's turn to wear those goofy "Fear of God" uniforms.

Which means we'll be wearing black and Iowa will likely wear gold. And the fans have been told to wear white. It'll look like an Iowa home game. LOL. 

Can't we get some red in there somewhere -- besides the numbers on our jerseys that you can barely see on TV anyway?

 

Attention to detail has never been a strength with our athletic department. 

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6 hours ago, LamarCheeks said:

I think it's the women's turn to wear those goofy "Fear of God" uniforms.

Which means we'll be wearing black and Iowa will likely wear gold. And the fans have been told to wear white. It'll look like an Iowa home game. LOL. 

Can't we get some red in there somewhere -- besides the numbers on our jerseys that you can barely see on TV anyway?

 

Iowa is not going to have that many fans there. Yes Caitlyn Clark draws on the road, but at any team worth a damn this season it is 80-90% home fans. Don't expect different at IU. 

I don't like these uniforms either but Adidas kind of forced IU to do it and am much more concerned about results on court than what team is wearing. Iowa had maybe 10% of the fans in Assembly Hall last year with a similar team and the game was not even sold out. This one has been for weeks and to get into the stadium will cost premium prices on secondary.

'The worry about it being this huge invasion of Iowa fans is so beyond ridiculous. It reminds me of the AFC Championship between Colts and Patriots I went to almost 20 years ago where everyone was worried about this huge invasion of Patriots fans. It ended up being 90% Colts fans and the best atmosphere ever. Same with IU Kentucky with Wat Shot. Will be absolutely similar tomorrow and best atmosphere for any game in Assembly Hall since last season men or women with Hawkeyes facing a very hostile crowd.

Also remember with new system the lower part of the arena is now assigned seating for season ticket holders and only a few hundred are available on secondary market (out of nearly 7,000). Any Iowa fan who bought tickets five weeks ago in GA before sellout will be relegated to row 32 and above (court level GA is being done differently with wristbands and not just available for anyone per an IU release today). 

I am fine with people taking issue with the uniforms or white out. However, this worry about it looking like an Iowa home game or not having an elite home court advantage is really really silly.  

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15 hours ago, Aaron said:

Iowa is not going to have that many fans there. Yes Caitlyn Clark draws on the road, but at any team worth a damn this season it is 80-90% home fans. Don't expect different at IU. 

I don't like these uniforms either but Adidas kind of forced IU to do it and am much more concerned about results on court than what team is wearing. Iowa had maybe 10% of the fans in Assembly Hall last year with a similar team and the game was not even sold out. This one has been for weeks and to get into the stadium will cost premium prices on secondary.

'The worry about it being this huge invasion of Iowa fans is so beyond ridiculous. It reminds me of the AFC Championship between Colts and Patriots I went to almost 20 years ago where everyone was worried about this huge invasion of Patriots fans. It ended up being 90% Colts fans and the best atmosphere ever. Same with IU Kentucky with Wat Shot. Will be absolutely similar tomorrow and best atmosphere for any game in Assembly Hall since last season men or women with Hawkeyes facing a very hostile crowd.

Also remember with new system the lower part of the arena is now assigned seating for season ticket holders and only a few hundred are available on secondary market (out of nearly 7,000). Any Iowa fan who bought tickets five weeks ago in GA before sellout will be relegated to row 32 and above (court level GA is being done differently with wristbands and not just available for anyone per an IU release today). 

I am fine with people taking issue with the uniforms or white out. However, this worry about it looking like an Iowa home game or not having an elite home court advantage is really really silly.  

Dude -- it was a friggin' joke. And I never once said I was worried about an invasion of Iowa fans. You're making this sh-t up. 

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4 minutes ago, LamarCheeks said:

Dude -- it was a friggin' joke. 

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Sorry missed the humor as did Wat Shot with his comment it appears:(. My bad. I have seen to many silly posts that all these Iowa fans are somehow going to invade Assembly Hall this week. 

Also if one thinks darker colors feel like road uni's you are not watching enough other sports besides college basketball. Any other sport (including NBA) you often have dark uniforms regardless of venue. This idea that home teams where lighter colors has not been a thing for years in anything but college bball and that is changing too. We need to get used to the fact that the color of the uniform no longer indicates whether game is home or away but chosen at random. 

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He said it would LOOK like an Iowa home game due to the colors of the uniforms and the crowd, and it might. I could totally see our AD not realizing this until after the fact. Of course there aren't going to be a ton of Iowa fans in the building, no one is expecting that. 

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5 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

He said it would LOOK like an Iowa home game due to the colors of the uniforms and the crowd, and it might. I could totally see our AD not realizing this until after the fact. Of course there aren't going to be a ton of Iowa fans in the building, no one is expecting that. 

As I said above we need to get used to fact that colors no longer determine home and road. Like that in pretty much every sport now. Light colors no longer mean home and dark no longer mean road. It is random choice by night in pretty much every sport. 

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On 2/21/2024 at 5:02 PM, Aaron said:

Sorry missed the humor as did Wat Shot with his comment it appears:(. My bad. I have seen to many silly posts that all these Iowa fans are somehow going to invade Assembly Hall this week. 

Also if one thinks darker colors feel like road uni's you are not watching enough other sports besides college basketball. Any other sport (including NBA) you often have dark uniforms regardless of venue. This idea that home teams where lighter colors has not been a thing for years in anything but college bball and that is changing too. We need to get used to the fact that the color of the uniform no longer indicates whether game is home or away but chosen at random. 

Did I ever once say dark colors feel like road uniforms? NO.

I said -- and it was in jest -- that with us wearing black, Iowa likely wearing gold and the fans wearing white it could resemble an Iowa home game. Because, you see -- black, gold and white are Iowa's colors. And I repeat -- it was in jest.

I lived in Minnesota for several years and in high school ball there, the home team always wears dark. And I've also seen countless college and NBA games in which the home team wears dark. I'm fully aware this is not a new phenomenon.  

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