Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[Pagoda 573]

If they wanted Mike to stay so bad they would have extended him.  They didn’t for a reason.

[Golfman25 5,527]

1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

I hear you however  I thinks it’s past the point of winning will pick it back up.  Even if he wins too many red flags for him being the coach past this year.   I don’t run down through the list with winning on the court being the least important.  I disagree with the season starting on Saturday. It started after the Bahamas.  Call them cupcakes or bottom of the B1G however they still had to go out and win those games.   I could argue I would want some of those conference games against the bottom  sprinkled in between this 11 game Q1 stretch.   My argument is that he should be gone regardless of how the rest of the season plays out.  15-5, 18-2, 5-15, 10-10 doesn’t matter to me how this seasons ends for me and this is just my opinion it’s time for a new leader to give life to the program.  If I’m wrong and he somehow is back then I guess I will deal with that when the time comes 

I agree.  There is no question there are reasons to get rid of him even if he manages a final four run this year.  The program is in horrible shape in terms of foundation for it's future -- recruiting pipelines, player development, etc.  

But to the casual fan, the "true fan" if you will, wining in the now is the measure of the program.  They don't look past that.  So when we blew Atlantis, it put a cloud over the record which has everyone questioning whether they can compete in the Big.  Nebraska showed it's still a work in progress.  Stealing the PSU win was a step forward.  We are really going to find out against U of I, Purdon't, and those Michigan teams.  We steal this Iowa game, and they pick up two unexpected wins and are much closer to closing in on the 10+ Big wins needed.  Hell, even I'll jump aboard, but right now I am "show me" first.  

[Golfman25 5,527]

1 hour ago, TheWatShot said:

It would be incredibly irresponsible to retain a 67 year old coach who isn't actively recruiting anymore and is routinely skipping out on media sessions. The head coach at IU simply cannot be invisible to the public eye. It needs to be made clear to Woodson (if it hasn't already) that if he wants this job, he needs to put forth a lot more effort in these areas. 

Hey, he still goes to that Winery thing doesn't he.  :)  

[Golfman25 5,527]

17 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

If they wanted Mike to stay so bad they would have extended him.  They didn’t for a reason.

Sure.  He was on the hot seat last year.  So you're not going to extend him.  He's on the hot seat again this year.  He was given the money to build a top 10 team.  They are under performing that metric.  However, IF he ends up with top 25 results and a makes the tourney, the likelihood that he returns, and gets that extension goes up.  Right now it's wait and see.  

[Hornsby 2,104]

Sure.  He was on the hot seat last year.  So you're not going to extend him.  He's on the hot seat again this year.  He was given the money to build a top 10 team.  They are under performing that metric.  However, IF he ends up with top 25 results and a makes the tourney, the likelihood that he returns, and gets that extension goes up.  Right now it's wait and see.  

Those were maybe even initial expectations but at iu goalposts always change. Even if he finished top 3 in the big ten I still don't see him doing anything in the tourney. He has been destroyed both times he made it. But if the Cooks and Scott's are happy that's all that matters. They will pony up again to buy another roster.

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[Hornsby 2,104]

Hey, he still goes to that Winery thing doesn't he.  :)  

And the king of indiana golf tourney.

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[Chris007 44,199]

22 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Hey, he still goes to that Winery thing doesn't he.  :)  

That one is non-negotiable. Also, the info that he won't be the coach next year hadn't been decided when that event took place in August. 

[go iu bb 6,239]

19 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Sure.  He was on the hot seat last year.  So you're not going to extend him.  He's on the hot seat again this year.  He was given the money to build a top 10 team.  They are under performing that metric.  However, IF he ends up with top 25 results and a makes the tourney, the likelihood that he returns, and gets that extension goes up.  Right now it's wait and see.  

Just needs top 50ish result to make the 68 team tournament.

[AH1971 1,505]

1 hour ago, TheWatShot said:

It would be incredibly irresponsible to retain a 67 year old coach who isn't actively recruiting anymore and is routinely skipping out on media sessions. The head coach at IU simply cannot be invisible to the public eye. It needs to be made clear to Woodson (if it hasn't already) that if he wants this job, he needs to put forth a lot more effort in these areas. 

Didn't IU host a recruit last night?

[Home Jersey 8,060]

19 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Didn't IU host a recruit last night?

Yes before the game Mike spent a lot of time recruiting that high profile recruit, believe Woody said he is named, Hans Solo, from Kosovo

[AH1971 1,505]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Yes before the game Mike spent a lot of time recruiting that high profile recruit, believe Woody said he is named, Hans Solo, from Kosovo

So Woodson did host a recruit for an official visit last night? Just wanted clarification as that seems to go against the "not actively recruiting anyone" narrative. I believe that high profile recruit is in Madison this weekend along with Creighton and Virginia after. 

[Home Jersey 8,060]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

So Woodson did host a recruit for an official visit last night? Just wanted clarification as that seems to go against the "not actively recruiting anyone" narrative. I believe that high profile recruit is in Madison this weekend along with Creighton and Virginia after. 

You must be dunking imaginarily on everyone so much inside your own head lol

[Stuhoo 81,397]

30 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Didn't IU host a recruit last night?

 

6 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

So Woodson did host a recruit for an official visit last night? Just wanted clarification as that seems to go against the "not actively recruiting anyone" narrative. I believe that high profile recruit is in Madison this weekend along with Creighton and Virginia after. 

All snarkiness both from you and from those responding to you aside? (Because all that snarkiness and personal passive-aggressiveness makes for a crap-tastic thread)

I would say that when the first meet is the official visit and the player is a late decision who is deciding in a few weeks, that's not most people's definition of "actively recruiting."

Trent Sisley was Woody and staff actively recruiting. This is a speed dating/get a late commit play and Woody has been very good with that dynamic.

[AH1971 1,505]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

All snarkiness both from you and from those responding to you aside?

I would say that when the first meet is the official visit and the player is a late decision deciding ion a few weeks, that's not most people's definition of "actively recruiting."

Trent Sisley was Woody and staff actively recruiting. This is a speed dating get a late commit play and Woody has been very good with that dynamic.

Guessing the chances the person I responded too knew that IU was hosting an official for a 25 recruit last night were next to zero. 

[AH1971 1,505]

8 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

You must be dunking imaginarily on everyone so much inside your own head lol

Just in a public forum.

[Stuhoo 81,397]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Guessing the chances the person I responded too knew that IU was hosting an official for a 25 recruit last night were next to zero. 

I think you're guessing wrong. These posters keep up and the board and IU media has publicized the visit.

[OKHOOSIER 2,538]

4 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

I feel a very strong connection to Mackenzie Mgbako. Who do you guys think taught him how to cuss out Taco Bell workers at the drive thru in the early hours of the morning? 

My connection would be Carlysle if my coaches hadn’t restricted me from shots outside 6 feet from the rim. They never let me fly, they never saw the jumper for what it was. Sad. 

[Hoosierfan2017 21,583]

If one really feels the urge to defend Woodson at this juncture, high school recruiting really just isn’t the hump to die on…

[Shooter 375]

8 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Curious if the people who think he will be back next year have been to a game in Assembly Hall this year?  There is more to it than wins and losses.  The program has no juice right now. I would hope that Dolson sees this with his own eyes and regardless of if IU makes a 68 field tournament they move on because it’s definitely in the best interest of the program.   When my wife and kids  are  pointing out that there is a different feel in the building you know the program is in a bad spot.   Curious if others that go frequently feel the same bad vibes that I felt last night 

Yes. I have season tickets, and the atmosphere in the Hall has been very weak this year. I'm not hearing people actively boo Woody, but the energy level has been lower than in years past, and fans are quick to turn to groans when anything goes remotely bad.

Ticket prices on the secondary market this season are also lower than typical.

[MikeRoberts 7,057]

58 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Guessing the chances the person I responded too knew that IU was hosting an official for a 25 recruit last night were next to zero. 

I can only imagine Woody was equally clueless.