(2025) - PG Mikel Brown, Jr. to Louisville

[Stuhoo]

1 minute ago, Demo said:

Seems to still be growing. Was something like 5’10” when IU 1st offered. Was listed by Sunrise Christian last year as 6’1”. Now listed at 6’3” pretty much everywhere.

He's the same height. His shoes have grown.

[Demo]

58 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

He must be good but I don’t know.  Boogie is better. Then the switching of schools constantly. The stats don’t look great.  The evals sound nice.   Supposed to be a shooter. 

Given how long the staff has been in on Brown, Woody watched him personally last summer I believe twice, if they had a clue that this might be in the offing it could explain why they've seemingly kept a little distance with Davis if they thought he might aggressively jump on an offer. Or, that could be too cute by half and I could be full of it. But it makes some sense.

[Chris007]

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

He must be good but I don’t know.  Boogie is better. Then the switching of schools constantly. The stats don’t look great.  The evals sound nice.   Supposed to be a shooter. 

They used to JHS switched schools too much too

[lillurk]

Appears he turns 18 in April so he would not be especially young for the ‘24 class. Anyone know if he started as a ‘24?

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51 minutes ago, lillurk said:

Appears he turns 18 in April so he would not be especially young for the ‘24 class. Anyone know if he started as a ‘24?

Don’t remember him as anything but a ‘25. Imagine they made a call based on his physical immaturity pretty early on. If you look at video from even 18 months ago, he looked really young. Appears to just now be catching up. 

[Demo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk39zpKGwrg

For anyone wanting to do a little compare and contrast and can stomach the almost unwatchable OTE broadcast, this is a link to a Brown Jr vs Daquan Davis game from last month. They both had really good nights, Brown made some Curry-esque deep 3’s, but man, it’s like watching travel ball coupled with announcers who don’t bother to prepare in any way. Also has an interview with Brown at halftime. Seems like a nice kid. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Last night loss.  11p;  1r;  3a;  2s;  0b;  3t       2-11 FG;  1-8 on 3s;    6-6 FT.

7-game averages:  14.0p;  2.0r;  4.7a;  1.3s;  .1b;  2.7t       39.1% FG;  36.6% on 3s;  90.6% FT

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

68-66 win.  7p;  1r;  2a;  0s;  0b;  1t          3-10 FG;  1-4 on 3s;  0-0 FT

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Lots of these kinds of games from him. Not sure why he’d hurry to reclassify.


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[Demo]

52 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Lots of these kinds of games from him. Not sure why he’d hurry to reclassify.


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Have now watched 3 games of Brown’s and I’ll say this: whether it’s transfer or reclass or whatever, that kid needs to get the hell away from OTE. Unlike Davis, whose game isn’t impacted at all by that style, that crap is doing Brown no good at all. He starts every game rock solid and his tools are obvious. Then as the game goes on he slides into that 12 sec possession if-I-can-get-it off-it’s-a-good-look OTE style of play and he gets sloppier and his decision-making gets worse. Oh, and his coach is worthless. If I were Mikel Brown Sr that kid would be in an actual developmental environment. He’s got a lot of Darius Garland’s game to him. But he’s not improving here. 
 

Side note: after a few viewings now, unless there’s something character-wise or academically or some such, I would take Daquan Davis in a New York freaking minute. That kid is tough as nails. He’s the most competitive kid on the floor every minute of every game. He really defends. He can make shots and he doesn’t take bad ones. He’s a solid playmaker, though not as good as Brown. I think he’s just a stone winning player. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

On 1/7/2024 at 11:11 AM, Demo said:

He’s a solid playmaker, though not as good as Brown. I think he’s just a stone winning player. 

In your eyes, what makes Brown the better player over Daquan Davis?

[Demo]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

In your eyes, what makes Brown the better player over Daquan Davis?

In January 2024 I’m not sure he is. Defensively, he’s definitely not, though he’s not bad. Davis is just really disruptive and obviously takes pride in his defense. Kid’s in the middle of everything  Brown’s more projectable. He’s bigger. He’s a little longer. Little better athlete. Really deep range. But I would think what Woody would light on is that Brown has obvious NBA-caliber playmaking chops. 2 plays come to mind: 1) Brown jumps and contorts his body to catch an outlet pass on the left wing that’s thrown high and behind him. Catches it in 1 hand and before he hits the ground he guns it at a 45 degree angle crosscourt dead on the money to a guy running the right alley for a dunk. Watched it multiple times and not sure when he even identified the guy. 2) catches a pass coming off a down screen and wants to hit the screener cutting to the rim. Doesn’t have an angle and almost anybody throws it as an alley-oop, which would have been really tough. Instead, Brown makes a quick faint to his right, gets the roll defender to move a hair left and then whips a bounce pass through the tiny window he created between his defender and the roll defender for a layup. That was cool. Those aren’t college PG plays. Those are Chris Paul plays.  They’re not teachable. That being said, assuming there are no issues we’re unaware of, if I had the choice between accepting a Davis commitment today or waiting on a potential Brown re-class I’d take Davis and never look back. I’m a believer in the kid’s game and he’s got the mother of all chips on his shoulder. Have become a big fan.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

97-84 win.  Brown 12p;  4r;  9a;  1s;  0b;  4t.     4-9 FG;  1-3 on 3s;  3-3 FT.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

113-82 beatdown.  Brown 9p;  0r;  3a;  0s;  0b;  0t        2-14 FG;  1-8 on 3s; 4-4 FT.  

10-gm. avg.   12.6p;  1.9r;  4.7a;  1.0s;  .1b;  2.4t    35.3% FG;  32.1% on 3s;  92.3% FT   He averages 27.5 min./gm.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

79-78 loss.  16p;  1r;  9a;  1s;  0b;  2t             5-16 FG;  3-5 on 3s;  3-3 FT         

[HoosierTrav]

On 1/8/2024 at 1:37 PM, Demo said:

In January 2024 I’m not sure he is. Defensively, he’s definitely not, though he’s not bad. Davis is just really disruptive and obviously takes pride in his defense. Kid’s in the middle of everything  Brown’s more projectable. He’s bigger. He’s a little longer. Little better athlete. Really deep range. But I would think what Woody would light on is that Brown has obvious NBA-caliber playmaking chops. 2 plays come to mind: 1) Brown jumps and contorts his body to catch an outlet pass on the left wing that’s thrown high and behind him. Catches it in 1 hand and before he hits the ground he guns it at a 45 degree angle crosscourt dead on the money to a guy running the right alley for a dunk. Watched it multiple times and not sure when he even identified the guy. 2) catches a pass coming off a down screen and wants to hit the screener cutting to the rim. Doesn’t have an angle and almost anybody throws it as an alley-oop, which would have been really tough. Instead, Brown makes a quick faint to his right, gets the roll defender to move a hair left and then whips a bounce pass through the tiny window he created between his defender and the roll defender for a layup. That was cool. Those aren’t college PG plays. Those are Chris Paul plays.  They’re not teachable. That being said, assuming there are no issues we’re unaware of, if I had the choice between accepting a Davis commitment today or waiting on a potential Brown re-class I’d take Davis and never look back. I’m a believer in the kid’s game and he’s got the mother of all chips on his shoulder. Have become a big fan.

Agree with you 100%… Davis may be #1 on my wish list. I watch him play and I KNOW he’s going to dominate at the college level. It’s fun getting NBA players but I’d love to build around guys like Davis, Mullins, Sisley, etc….. if we can do this while maintaining our pace of one or two 5 star players each season, then we are in business. It takes a tremendous amount of pressure off the coach and deepens the impact of the bigger gets (5 star guys). 

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

81-76 win.   14p;  3r;  5a;  0s;  0b;  3t               4-9 FG;  2-5 on 3s;  4-4 FT.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

85-60 win.  10p.  0r;  6a;  2s;  0b;  1t.         3-9 FG;  3-4 on 3s;  1-2 FT.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

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