IU Basketball News and Notes

[Stuhoo 91,034]

32 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

He was just saying we don’t have byu uk money, the board is inflating it 10x more than it really is. Just my take on it 

It's not a 'haves and have nots' as much as it is a sliding scale from the top down. 

So yes, UK, UL, BYU, etc are at the top, but we're in 'very competitive' status.

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4 hours ago, Pagoda said:

Thanks for the info.

Not what I want to hear.  NIL Go is just something to work around and as we know NIL is still vital to compete.

I also wonder how football is trending.

**Edit**: For what it’s worth, the few people I know around the AD saw this from Rabby and said no one really knows the exact NIL levels and they aren’t too worried.  We shall see…

Unless there has been a drastic change in the mindset of the university and athletic department, a work around isn't an option. We've seen that.

It may or may not become an issue, hopefully it doesn't, but the staff seems to be targeting highly ranked recruits that not only will be demanding top dollars but will put IU in direct competition with schools he listed as being willing to spend more NIL. That doesn't give me warm fuzzies.  We've already missed on one recruit to either KU or UL because of NIL.

IU had a real chance to become a major player in college basketball when NIL was first introduced and IU was way up there in the amount they were willing to spend. Instead, we squandered those years with Woodson as the coach and now we're back to playing it safe.

[Pagoda 5,539]

3 hours ago, go iu bb said:

Unless there has been a drastic change in the mindset of the university and athletic department, a work around isn't an option. We've seen that.

It may or may not become an issue, hopefully it doesn't, but the staff seems to be targeting highly ranked recruits that not only will be demanding top dollars but will put IU in direct competition with schools he listed as being willing to spend more NIL. That doesn't give me warm fuzzies.  We've already missed on one recruit to either KU or UL because of NIL.

IU had a real chance to become a major player in college basketball when NIL was first introduced and IU was way up there in the amount they were willing to spend. Instead, we squandered those years with Woodson as the coach and now we're back to playing it safe.

Yea I don't really disagree.  As for the workaround, if almost all schools shifted to doing something like investing in players' companies in lieu of NIL to avoid the clearinghouse, I think we would follow suit since that's probably not technically against any rules (I don't know enough though).  I agree we won't do any illegal under the table stuff per our history.  We'll see -- NIL Go may just shift to approving almost everything, which may have started to happen recently?

The Woody years were just devastating.  First off, we hired him, a major setback.  Then that darn 4th year he got.  The perfect rebuild time was spring 2024 when we were flush with top-5 NIL of $6M and the player market was favorable.  We could afford almost anyone in that portal window!  And we would have one year of rebuild under our belt going into '25-'26.  Instead, Woody literally set that $6M on fire and we just had to rebuild into a much more difficult market this past spring with the rev share coming online increasing player comp 2x, maybe 2.5x.  Just terrible.  Oh well, it's water under the bridge now.

Anyways, thanks for reporting the Rabby info, my antenna are up on the IUBB NIL.  I'm not that well-sourced, but the people I know didn't sound too concerned.  But, someone told Rabby something likely to get the message out... so we'll see, this could be a serious problem.  I suppose it's good we are targeting highly ranked kids and I assume we know how much we need to pay them, but I'm really hoping we don't see any sort of trend of losing recruiting battles due to money.  That would stink.

Overall, money worries me.  We're still fundamentally a fairly small athletic dept.  We have some generous billionaires/high net worth folks, but I don't know how much they have left in the tank.  That's why I go wild about football, because if we could ever become a midsize football program that will transform our athletic dept financials -- there is athletic dept revenue upside of 20-30% in my view.

Fingers crossed our NIL situation is okay and CDD is the guy for the job.  I'd rather focus more on the actual games than NIL/rev share/coaching questions.

 

[Dave from Dayton 4,117]

My perspective is that the coach's abilities and drive and other intangibles decide very much of the situations.  The current situation really does appear to show that IU has tough winners at the top two men's sports head positions.  I am pumped.

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,863]

Super bummed to hear this news. We are gonna get lapped.


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https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/lack-of-talent-revenue-sharing-transfer-portal-create-unique-college-basketball-recruiting-cycle-for-2026/

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1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/lack-of-talent-revenue-sharing-transfer-portal-create-unique-college-basketball-recruiting-cycle-for-2026/

https://x.com/mattnorlander/status/1968702969588629537?s=46

[go iu bb 10,034]

I saw on twitter that Ristic has been sighted wearing the dreaded boot on his left foot.

 

[TheWatShot 15,676]

A foot injury requiring the walking boot is a rite of passage in this program. 

[Demo 24,818]

13 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

A foot injury requiring the walking boot is a rite of passage in this program. 

Yup, not a Hoosier until you’ve had one.

[Stuhoo 91,034]

Really good stuff here. Lamar and Tayton are the dynamic duo:

https://youtube.com/shorts/_W6IW7mJb9s?si=_rCFHw8VD12XLy8R

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,863]

53 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Really good stuff here. Lamar and Tayton are the dynamic duo:

https://youtube.com/shorts/_W6IW7mJb9s?si=_rCFHw8VD12XLy8R

Thanks for sharing. Good stuff, lol

[Home Jersey 16,832]

One has nothing to do with the other really, but the fact Dolson hit a grand slam home run with the football hire makes me optimistic/hopeful that he's done the same with basketball this time around. Not too much longer now til we see them in action with our own eyes.

[Pagoda 5,539]

3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Really good stuff here. Lamar and Tayton are the dynamic duo:

https://youtube.com/shorts/_W6IW7mJb9s?si=_rCFHw8VD12XLy8R

Lamar is flat out funny.

It’s really nice to have such a likable team with some great personalities.

[HoosierHoopster 8,900]

1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

One has nothing to do with the other really, but the fact Dolson hit a grand slam home run with the football hire makes me optimistic/hopeful that he's done the same with basketball this time around. Not too much longer now til we see them in action with our own eyes.

Imo Cig and DeVries are cut from the same cloth.

Cig is a football mind who has developed prior programs into winning teams.

DeVries is a basketball mind who has developed programs into winning teams.

I am optimistic 

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17 minutes ago, HoosierHoopster said:

Imo Cig and DeVries are cut from the same cloth.

Cig is a football mind who has developed prior programs into winning teams.

DeVries is a basketball mind who has developed programs into winning teams.

I am optimistic 

This would mean that Scott Dolson knows what the heck he’s doing, has a plan, has a ‘type’ of coach that he wants, and now has been given license to hire AND pay to retain as he sees fit. Cig, Moren, Yeagley, and now Devries.

I think that is absolutely true, and I am also optimistic.