Go_Hoosiers Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 8 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said: Its interesting but the rim protection is still a problem. I do not see how we trust MR to log major minutes at the 5 and stay on the court. It somehow seemed like he cleaned the fouls up a little but he still basically averaged a foul out per 40 minutes lol I think it was like 4.4 fouls per 40. We had the best rim protector in the conference this year and our defense was statistically terrible. Maybe rim protecting is overrated. Your comment on Reneau foul issues is spot on though. thebigweave, HoosierHoopster and pumpfake 3 Quote
mark1981 Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 Maybe if we get stuck with Payne. He can bring Brandon Huntley-Hatfield with him. Quote
Demo Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tre-dinkins-1.html Quote
AH1971 Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 11 minutes ago, Go_Hoosiers said: We had the best rim protector in the conference this year and our defense was statistically terrible. Maybe rim protecting is overrated. Your comment on Reneau foul issues is spot on though. Too many defensive break downs with guys guarding outside of their natural positions. It took well into late January for MM to get comfortable guarding at this level and Reneau simply cannot guard out to the perimeter. Quote
Feathery Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 Just now, AH1971 said: Too many defensive break downs with guys guarding outside of their natural positions. It took well into late January for MM to get comfortable guarding at this level and Reneau simply cannot guard out to the perimeter. Part of me believes it would be better for IU and MR to part ways. But then I remember that we would just get another post player to replace him with in the starting lineup to have 2 post players starting. thebigweave and Go_Hoosiers 1 1 Quote
Five Prime Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 Yes to Tre Dinkins, if only for the name alone. Commentators would have pun fun with that one Quote
Home Jersey Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 2 minutes ago, Feathery said: Part of me believes it would be better for IU and MR to part ways. But then I remember that we would just get another post player to replace him with in the starting lineup to have 2 post players starting. Not singling you/this POV out, but I can't see it at all for next year really. I do agree it's an awkward lineup fit, pairing him with MM and a rim protecting five. But his post scoring can be elite at it's best and he made a big leap in the offseason this past year. If he makes a similar one this offseason, he could have a great junior year. You'd hope by his 3rd year in the system, he'd be better at making passing reads on offense and smarter about some foul trouble. I do not think the odds are high at all that we'd be able to replace MR with a player as skilled as him/knowledgeable about how this staff likes to do things. Especially when we are about to have so much roster turnover, I am valuing him very highly. Hope the staff is too. He was conference honorable mention wasn't he? OGIUAndy, sirhoosierlot and RaceToTheTop 3 Quote
Feathery Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 4 minutes ago, Home Jersey said: Not singling you/this POV out, but I can't see it at all for next year really. I do agree it's an awkward lineup fit, pairing him with MM and a rim protecting five. But his post scoring can be elite at it's best and he made a big leap in the offseason this past year. If he makes a similar one this offseason, he could have a great junior year. You'd hope by his 3rd year in the system, he'd be better at making passing reads on offense and smarter about some foul trouble. I do not think the odds are high at all that we'd be able to replace MR with a player as skilled as him/knowledgeable about how this staff likes to do things. Especially when we are about to have so much roster turnover, I am valuing him very highly. Hope the staff is too. He was conference honorable mention wasn't he? He is definitely talented. And I’m not wanting him to leave, which is why I said part of me. I can see how it would be a benefit. But that’s not the style we are going to play. So we will need his post play. Hopefully he can work on his ft shooting as well. Home Jersey 1 Quote
OGIUAndy Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 6 minutes ago, Home Jersey said: Not singling you/this POV out, but I can't see it at all for next year really. I do agree it's an awkward lineup fit, pairing him with MM and a rim protecting five. But his post scoring can be elite at it's best and he made a big leap in the offseason this past year. If he makes a similar one this offseason, he could have a great junior year. You'd hope by his 3rd year in the system, he'd be better at making passing reads on offense and smarter about some foul trouble. I do not think the odds are high at all that we'd be able to replace MR with a player as skilled as him/knowledgeable about how this staff likes to do things. Especially when we are about to have so much roster turnover, I am valuing him very highly. Hope the staff is too. He was conference honorable mention wasn't he? You can't cut bait on every player who has flaws. MR had a good season, teams just started packing the paint and doubling him and he started to force the action a lot. But he's a very good player who's only going to get better. Wanting to get rid of him is silly. Home Jersey, CSP, HoosierHoopster and 1 other 4 Quote
Go_Hoosiers Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 1 minute ago, OGIUAndy said: You can't cut bait on every player who has flaws. MR had a good season, teams just started packing the paint and doubling him and he started to force the action a lot. But he's a very good player who's only going to get better. Wanting to get rid of him is silly. You're right. However, if we return Galloway, MM and Reneau in our starting lineup next year how much better can we possibly be? I find it hard to believe we are going to upgrade at Ware's position. BannerVille 1 Quote
68Hoosier Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 1 minute ago, Go_Hoosiers said: You're right. However, if we return Galloway, MM and Reneau in our starting lineup next year how much better can we possibly be? I find it hard to believe we are going to upgrade at Ware's position. I think the key is at point guard, 100%. Need someone to keep us in the flow of the game and distribute the ball. Galloway is a great player but not a true point guard or 2 guard. MM is a true wing but never got the chance in our offence to come off screens for set plays to hit shots. I would keep all of those guys and add in two point / combo guards who can distribute the ball, make shots and create their own shots. rcbowla 1 Quote
68Hoosier Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 3 minutes ago, 68Hoosier said: I think the key is at point guard, 100%. Need someone to keep us in the flow of the game and distribute the ball. Galloway is a great player but not a true point guard or 2 guard. MM is a true wing but never got the chance in our offence to come off screens for set plays to hit shots. I would keep all of those guys and add in two point / combo guards who can distribute the ball, make shots and create their own shots. I would love to see what MR and KW could do if we had shooters that made the defense play out and not pack in the paint like they do us now. Quote
AH1971 Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 26 minutes ago, Feathery said: Part of me believes it would be better for IU and MR to part ways. But then I remember that we would just get another post player to replace him with in the starting lineup to have 2 post players starting. I don't know if you part ways with him but I would agree that he's not the type of player that you can play alongside another big for 30 minutes a game. And that's an honest conversation the staff probably needs to have with him. Quote
Stuhoo Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 Rutger staring guard Derek Simpson enters the portal. He is not good at basketball. OliviaPope40 and RaceToTheTop 2 Quote
68Hoosier Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 1 minute ago, Stuhoo said: Rutger staring guard Derek Simpson enters the portal. He is not good at basketball. So, you are saying we will likely offer him. 219Hoosier 1 Quote
Stuhoo Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 Just now, 68Hoosier said: So, you are saying we will likely offer him. No, I am not. And no, we will not. Quote
ebridges24 Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 2 hours ago, HoosierCoop said: Just for ghits and shiggles: Dug, Trey, MM, Rooths, and Reneau might put a raise in my brow. I don't care if we get the top players in the portal, my brow will remain firm. I got burnt this past year. HoosierCoop 1 Quote
68Hoosier Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 4 minutes ago, Stuhoo said: No, I am not. And no, we will not. I know, was just making a joke :) Stuhoo 1 Quote
Feathery Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 16 minutes ago, 68Hoosier said: I think the key is at point guard, 100%. Need someone to keep us in the flow of the game and distribute the ball. Galloway is a great player but not a true point guard or 2 guard. MM is a true wing but never got the chance in our offence to come off screens for set plays to hit shots. I would keep all of those guys and add in two point / combo guards who can distribute the ball, make shots and create their own shots. I think we need a PG and a SG that can both shoot it from deep. Then have MM, MR, and a new C. That would be 3 threats from deep to open the middle a little. Short of that, it’s going to be a long year imo. Parakeet Jones, WayneFleekHoosier and Home Jersey 3 Quote
68Hoosier Posted March 18, 2024 Posted March 18, 2024 1 minute ago, Feathery said: I think we need a PG and a SG that can both shoot it from deep. Then have MM, MR, and a new C. That would be 3 threats from deep to open the middle a little. Short of that, it’s going to be a long year imo. This ^^^^ Quote
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