NCAA MBB Transfer Portal

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44 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

DJ Wagner to Arkansas


Boogie Fland, DJ Wagner, Johnuel Davis, Thiero, Aidoo, and Big Z plus some Star freshman. Borderline top 10 roster for Cal but no one ever doubted that.


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Kinda a shitty coach tho.    :)

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22 hours ago, Josh said:

Remember when the boards along the court became advertising?  Oh boy the angry chatter.  Remember the Big Ten logo getting added below the free throw line?  The anger out of the anti-change crowd was fervent. 

Man if change angers people so much they should move to a uni bomber cabin and yell at the wind

Last sentence made me spit out my coffee! 

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On 5/25/2024 at 6:40 PM, RaceToTheTop said:

Chaz Lanier (North Florida, 6'4" guard, 19.8 ppg) chooses Tennessee over Kentucky.

In the Big Ten, PJ Hayes (San Diego, 6'3" guard, 10.5 ppg, 3.1 reb, shot 43/40/79, bulk three point shooter) transfers to Rutgers.

Xavier Foster, once a promising recruit (103rd in the class of 2020, 7') played a year at Iowa State and two years at SMU, scoring a grand total of 32 points in 21 games in his three years) transfers to Radford.

32 points in 21 games over a 3 year career tells me that either the kid has been injury prone. Or he’s not D1 quality. Can’t teach 7’

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Isaiah Miranda (7’1” center, Oklahoma state), transfers to Green Bay.  Was the 45th ranked recruit in 2022;  freshman year at NC State where he did not appear in a game, sophomore year at Oklahoma State where he played only 8 minutes before leaving the team in January.  Has said to be dealing with not only injuries but personal issues as well.

JT Toppin (New Mexico), one of the best remaining bigs, commits to Texas tech

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On3 tracking of transfers:

2022 transfers:  866 entered the portal;  660 transferred, 11 withdrew.  That leaves 189 that did not find a new place to play (22%)

2023 transfers:  1,115 entered, 536 transferred, 10 withdrew.  That leaves 569 that did not find a new place to play (51%)

2024 transfers:  1,089 entered, 789 transferred, 10 withdrew.  That leaves 290 that haven't found a new place to play (yet) (27%)

My guess is 2024 will become the norm -- lots of transfers with most finding new homes.  2023 there were still a lot of players with their extra covid year left so fewer spots to fill.

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Rothstein - Brooks Barnhizer tells me that he's withdrawing from the 2024 NBA Draft and will return to Northwestern.

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Caleb Love also pulls out of the draft and will return to Arizona 

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7 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Rothstein - Brooks Barnhizer tells me that he's withdrawing from the 2024 NBA Draft and will return to Northwestern.

 

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Baba Miller (Florida State), commits to Florida Atlantic.  6'11" stretch four, averaged 7.6 points and 4.9 rebounds at Florida State last year, starting all but one game.  Ranked 49th in the class of 2022 but has had struggled from three, making only 28% through two seasons.  Two years of eligibility left.

 

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Baba Miller (Florida State), commits to Florida Atlantic.  6'11" stretch four, averaged 7.6 points and 4.9 rebounds at Florida State last year, starting all but one game.  Ranked 49th in the class of 2022 but has had struggled from three, making only 28% through two seasons.  Two years of eligibility left.
 

Would have liked to get him. (Initially. I knew after Hatton it wasn’t a reality). Certainly seems we are standing pat at 12.


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Sandfort back to Iowa. One of my favorite players in CBB. I hate Iowa but that guy is gonna cook this season.


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Coleman Hawkins withdraws from NBA draft and says he will go to a new program.

Bidding war to commence.  I want say North Carolina could be the destination.

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1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Would have liked to get him. (Initially. I knew after Hatton it wasn’t a reality). Certainly seems we are standing pat at 12.


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I don’t get it.  If nothing else, get a 6’10” big body to hold down the bench as an emergency option if Ballou gets hurt

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Coleman Hawkins withdraws from NBA draft and says he will go to a new program.
Bidding war to commence.  I want say North Carolina could be the destination.

Agree. Arkansas will try, I think. But UNC has the money and need.


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I don’t get it.  If nothing else, get a 6’10” big body to hold down the bench as an emergency option if Ballou gets hurt

Me neither. Hatton is their backup big. They’re content. They don’t want chemistry problems and playing time problems. I think you can navigate that or at least I think you should be able to. Our drop off from starter to backup is about as big as you’ll see. I get Ballo gets 1.0 million so you don’t want to threaten his PT but it’s a potential weak spot. So much rides on him this year. I guess, maybe Woody goes Reneau at 5 in those circumstances but Reneau will have a lot of problems with legit 5s out there defensively. My hope was, get a better backup. But with Hatton I’d say get a different, defensive type big guy that could log specific type minutes. This is all pointless as we are set but I’ve got my fingers crossed.


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49 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Coleman Hawkins withdraws from NBA draft and says he will go to a new program.

Bidding war to commence.  I want say North Carolina could be the destination.

I'm glad he's leaving Illinois, but these are the transfers I don't get. Obviously each situation is unique, but multi-year starter on a winning team? Same for guys leaving Alabama etc. It's not PT and probably not NIL $$....grass is always greener? I don't understand why this is so wide-spread. 

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6 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Me neither. Hatton is their backup big. They’re content. They don’t want chemistry problems and playing time problems. I think you can navigate that or at least I think you should be able to. Our drop off from starter to backup is about as big as you’ll see. I get Ballo gets 1.0 million so you don’t want to threaten his PT but it’s a potential weak spot. So much rides on him this year. I guess, maybe Woody goes Reneau at 5 in those circumstances but Reneau will have a lot of problems with legit 5s out there defensively. My hope was, get a better backup. But with Hatton I’d say get a different, defensive type big guy that could log specific type minutes. This is all pointless as we are set but I’ve got my fingers crossed.


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I doubt we are going to get a guy that would be coming in expecting to actually see the court unless outside of an injury.  I threw the name Zach Loveday out as someone who I thought was a realistic option — not because he’s good but because he fits the bill of the kind of player who would be an emergency big who seems to be a good locker room guy.  Did a little research on him and he’s a business major as well.

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10 hours ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Me neither. Hatton is their backup big. They’re content. They don’t want chemistry problems and playing time problems. I think you can navigate that or at least I think you should be able to. Our drop off from starter to backup is about as big as you’ll see. I get Ballo gets 1.0 million so you don’t want to threaten his PT but it’s a potential weak spot. So much rides on him this year. I guess, maybe Woody goes Reneau at 5 in those circumstances but Reneau will have a lot of problems with legit 5s out there defensively. My hope was, get a better backup. But with Hatton I’d say get a different, defensive type big guy that could log specific type minutes. This is all pointless as we are set but I’ve got my fingers crossed.


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I concur.  My fondness for NIL rivals Dane Fife's but now that the ship has sailed IU should go all in.  Michael Durr only averaged 7 minutes a game but IU probably wouldn't have split with Purdue in 2021/22 without him. 

Has anyone brought up Javonte Brown-Ferguson?  Is he still available?  He's never lived up to his potential but Hurley was once pretty excited to get him.  I don't know the story with his redshirts but he originally reclassified like Ballo and has two years of eligibility remaining.  He and Kenya were pretty tight.  A kid getting fifteen minutes a game coming off the bench at Western Michigan shouldn't throw the locker room into turmoil.

Another option would be to "hire" a kid like Favour Aire to come and fill Payton Sparks's role?  That is - without all of the playing time.  Why not buy a kid's redshirt year?

I don't think he's committed anywhere.  Why not recruit him to be a practice body for Ballo and let him come in and work on his body and his free throw shooting?  The caveat would be if IU were hit with a major injury in the front court his redshirt would get burned.

Aire's a major project but he's long and athletic and was expected to be a good rebounder and rim protector.  There's not much film to look at but Larranaga and Rhoades both saw something they liked, as did Kenya.  Anthony Walker might be helpful in selling a bench role.   

Neither of these guys are used to getting a lot of minutes and neither would scare off Malachi Moreno or any of the bigs in the 2025 class. Why let that 13th scholarship go fallow or give it to a walk-on who won't ever see the floor?  It makes a lot more sense to bring in someone like one of these two and let them audition for a future roster spot, knowing Johnny Dawkins will take him off your hands if it doesn't work out.

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6 hours ago, Blue 2 Green said:

I concur.  My fondness for NIL rivals Dane Fife's but now that the ship has sailed IU should go all in.  Michael Durr only averaged 7 minutes a game but IU probably wouldn't have split with Purdue in 2021/22 without him. 

Has anyone brought up Javonte Brown-Ferguson?  Is he still available?  He's never lived up to his potential but Hurley was once pretty excited to get him.  I don't know the story with his redshirts but he originally reclassified like Ballo and has two years of eligibility remaining.  He and Kenya were pretty tight.  A kid getting fifteen minutes a game coming off the bench at Western Michigan shouldn't throw the locker room into turmoil.

Another option would be to "hire" a kid like Favour Aire to come and fill Payton Sparks's role?  That is - without all of the playing time.  Why not buy a kid's redshirt year?

I don't think he's committed anywhere.  Why not recruit him to be a practice body for Ballo and let him come in and work on his body and his free throw shooting?  The caveat would be if IU were hit with a major injury in the front court his redshirt would get burned.

Aire's a major project but he's long and athletic and was expected to be a good rebounder and rim protector.  There's not much film to look at but Larranaga and Rhoades both saw something they liked, as did Kenya.  Anthony Walker might be helpful in selling a bench role.   

Neither of these guys are used to getting a lot of minutes and neither would scare off Malachi Moreno or any of the bigs in the 2025 class. Why let that 13th scholarship go fallow or give it to a walk-on who won't ever see the floor?  It makes a lot more sense to bring in someone like one of these two and let them audition for a future roster spot, knowing Johnny Dawkins will take him off your hands if it doesn't work out.

I brought up Brown-Ferguson when he hit the portal.  Anyway, he signed with Texas A&M back in early April.

Aire would be a no from me.  He's been a washout at two schools now -- Miami and Penn State.  Rather take a flyer elsewhere or just get a big that has one season level and a low ceiling but is steady.

 

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On 5/29/2024 at 12:35 PM, RaceToTheTop said:

On3 tracking of transfers:

2022 transfers:  866 entered the portal;  660 transferred, 11 withdrew.  That leaves 189 that did not find a new place to play (22%)

2023 transfers:  1,115 entered, 536 transferred, 10 withdrew.  That leaves 569 that did not find a new place to play (51%)

2024 transfers:  1,089 entered, 789 transferred, 10 withdrew.  That leaves 290 that haven't found a new place to play (yet) (27%)

My guess is 2024 will become the norm -- lots of transfers with most finding new homes.  2023 there were still a lot of players with their extra covid year left so fewer spots to fill.

All these kids stuck in a portal and nobody helps them at all. Heck, some of them have been in there since 2022.