TOM CREAN FIRED

[X-Hoosier 529]

But, you said you knew nothing about him.

That's what I do know of him. Pitt fans were not sad to see him leave.

[X-Hoosier 529]

But, you said you knew nothing about him.

What I should have said.. we don't know much about him... except that he was TO prone and can't hit the broad side of a barn from the outside.

[chitown hoosier 743]

Lol. Nostradamus can foresee IU basketball being bad next year when this season isn't over. JN, JBJ, RJ, CJ and DG seems like they'll be ok. Shooters and ball handlers everywhere. Not to mention JM, OG, TB, CH and DD manning the basket. Upper class leadership sprinkled with highly versatile sophomores and freshman. I likes.

[Feathery 4,005]

I am not a Crean apologist but I don't hate the guy either. Regardless, I'm happy for him and the team on the B1G Championship. He's shown a lot of growth this year.

BUT, as much as we can celebrate the B1G Championship and be happy about it (and rightfully so), he will ultimately be judged by how this team does in the tourney. We would all gladly forego the conference 'ship for a final four run. Excited to see how it goes for him and the team. It's just so refreshing to see a team performing well at the end of the season and even better is it is likely due to his adjustments throughout the season.

CTC has my vote for next year as of now......but things can change quickly.

I wouldn't trade a conference title for a final four appearance. One is actually winning a championship, the other is just making a round in a tournament. Now I'd trade a conference title for a national title every time.

[Uspshoosier 50,864]

I wouldn't trade a conference title for a final four appearance. One is actually winning a championship, the other is just making a round in a tournament. Now I'd trade a conference title for a national title every time.

coaches probably would. When a coach makes his 1st final 4 it's compared to a golfer winning his first major. Coaches are graded by final appearances. As a coach u never want to be on the list they show during the tournament as the best coach never to make a final 4

[Chips&Dipo 1,464]

Some IU fans are ridiculous. Clinch a B1G regular season title, claiming about they are going to be bad next year. Just suck the fun out of everything.

[Feathery 4,005]

coaches probably would. When a coach makes his 1st final 4 it's compared to a golfer winning his first major. Coaches are graded by final appearances. As a coach u never want to be on the list they show during the tournament as the best coach never to make a final 4

Crean has made a final four. I grade coaches by actual championships, not how close they can get to one.

Edit: I'm a former coach in a different sport. To me just for a w/l perspective it was about actually winning a championship and not just getting close. Crean has 3 chances at a championship per year. If he can win one of the conference, conf tournament, or national title I'm thrilled. I'm not trying to diminish a final four but I'm not willing to trade a championship for a final four appearance. I'll gladly take a conference championship and a final four appearance though.

[mdn82 25,782]

Could Crean adjust? That'd be the biggest mystery of the year.

He did this year. Sadly he as a coach at IU has done more than any coach in your lifetime.

[Uspshoosier 50,864]

Crean has made a final four. I grade coaches by actual championships, not how close they can get to one.

you can I'm just saying the industry puts a heavy emphasis on coaches making final 4 appearances

[mdn82 25,782]

That's what I do know of him. Pitt fans were not sad to see him leave.

Yes because fan bases of all kind don't minimize a player leaving their program

[8bucks 7,043]

I wouldn't trade a conference title for a final four appearance. One is actually winning a championship, the other is just making a round in a tournament. Now I'd trade a conference title for a national title every time.

Interesting idea. It probably depends on the AND what happens in the NCAA. BT title and underperforming in the NCAA or top 4 in the BT and FF I probably take the latter.

[mdn82 25,782]

Adjusted to what though? A team of 3 point shooters? That's exactly what he knows. Next year won't be like that.

The sky is blue... Replies red... You really don't have to argue every single thing placed on the site. You know?

[Stuhoo 85,669]

I wouldn't trade a conference title for a final four appearance. One is actually winning a championship, the other is just making a round in a tournament. Now I'd trade a conference title for a national title every time.

 

 

I strongly prefer ... both.

[Uspshoosier 50,864]

Curious in recruiting when a coach tells a recruit they won a conference regular season title or they tell a recruit they went to a final 4 which one would matter more for a high level recruit

[Feathery 4,005]

I strongly prefer ... both.

I edited my previous post but the thread has already continued. Yes I agree I'd definitely want both. If you have a team that can win the conference, then you have a legit shot at a final four.

[Stuhoo 85,669]

The sky is blue... Replies red... You really don't have to argue every single thing placed on the site. You know?

 

I know you are but what am I?   :103:

[Uspshoosier 50,864]

I edited my previous post but the thread has already continued. Yes I agree I'd definitely want both. If you have a team that can win the conference, then you have a legit shot at a final four.

agree

[Defenserocks28 393]

We better win one of the two against Iowa or Maryland (I think we lose to Iowa and a win against Maryland).  I don't want to be co-champions with a two game lead with just two games left.   If we lose both games this thread will blow up.  Many (IU fans and other fanbases alike) will view us as champions due to weak scheduling.

 

And even if we do win one of the two, if we lose early in the BTT and are knocked out prior to the sweet sixteen, this thread will jump up to 10k posts before the start of the next season.  

[Feathery 4,005]

agree

I agree with DD and Greenburg that IU is final four good. I thought we had final four talent in the preseason, but it took a bit for the team to hit its stride. Now I'm believing if the team continues on playing well, then we could have the conference and a final four appearance.

[Feathery 4,005]

We better win one of the two against Iowa or Maryland (I think we lose to Iowa and a win against Maryland). I don't want to be co-champions with a two game lead with just two games left. If we lose both games this thread will blow up. Many (IU fans and other fanbases alike) will view us as champions due to weak scheduling.

And even if we do win one of the two, if we lose early in the BTT and are knocked out prior to the sweet sixteen, this thread will jump up to 10k posts before the start of the next season.

If IU loses 2 in a row and get beat early in both tournaments, then I can see the underachieving mantra coming back out. But his job would be safe.