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It's my bad. I started the convo on asking what Dorn's numbers were if you take out that 3-4 game heater he had. Completely agree that its totally unfair to Dorn to do that. But yeah, I just think he's so limited. Would have been fine keeping as a 8th-10th guy in the rotation for experience and culture and some situational stuff, but my opinion is that he is not a starter on a good Big Ten team. I don't know that Harris is either, but I'd take my chances with his upside given how well thought of he was.

Thinking about Nick Marsh.

Brandon Jenkins was at the UAA event yesterday as was DDV who is there again today. Per Jenkins, we also watched: Godson Okokoh playing for Canada Elite Shaq Kizzee and Drew Guy both playing for Texas Impact 4:13 M.J. Curry and Nas Anderson of the Atlanta Celtics

Not buying that logic. Those games counted and were largely wins. That’s good! It’s the non-catch and shoot stuff that makes me feel moving on from Dorn was a fine idea.

Dushawn London from yesterday's EYBL event - Michai White | City Rocks (17U, 2028) White is having a very strong start to the spring while playing up with 17U. Currently ranked No. 30 nationally in 2028, White had another strong outing in the loss against JL3. In a highly physical game, White impressed with his poise, decision making, intention to rebound and hit shots in the mid range and get to the rim. While this wasn't his best outing, White showed why he is among the top guards in the class and continued his strong spring.

Nice timing. Jet Academy plays in 15 mins.

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For the whole season, he was 60 of 158, which is 0.380. In a 4 game stretch he went: 4/9, 6/10, 4/9, 6/15. All 40% or greater. If those are excluded, his totals become 40/115, which is 0.348.

I’m here now. Weather isn’t too great but nothing to keep a football player from anything

My son is there. He says it’s supposed to rain all day, unfortunately.

Mother Nature not doing us any favors with the weather. Radar looks pretty damp in B-town. But I’m not there, so maybe it’s not too bad. Here’s hoping.

En feugo

I tried to stay awake for it.

I know this isn't necessarily fair to Dorn, but I wonder what those shooting numbers are if you take out his 3-game heater? I also wonder what Harris can bring beyond. I'm not trying to hate on Dorn, but he did very little beyond streaky shooting. If Harris can defend better, has some handling or creating he can provide, etc., he could upgrade in other areas. I don't know if he can do those things, but from what I saw from Dorn he can't.

The only possible upside to Dorn that I saw was that he was out until October with his foot injury, so he didn’t get to develop his game and conditioning. The version we had kinda sucked.

Dorn at Indiana: .380 3FG% on 5.3 attempts per game (2 makes) Luke Goode at Indiana: .392 3FG% on 4.9 attempts per game (1.9 makes) Goode on Illinois's E8 team: .389 3FG% on 4.1 attempts per game (making 1.6) Harris will need to make about 2 3s a game for us if he is expected to be a shooter. On 1.9 attempts last year, he made .6 per game in 9.7mpg. Hopefully the extra playing time helps him.

Preseason projections and evaluations can be indicators. But no one really has a great handle on any rebuilt teams until well into a tougher part of the schedule. Except for maybe the coaches...after some practices. Right or wrong, last season got the short end of the stick for many reasons. Not much was satisfactory except for getting a coaching change and Lamar Wilkerson...and isolated glimpses of development and improvement. This new season we may have a really decent PG who stays healthy. Maybe. After that, we have upgraded size and gotten mostly experienced players that have more than one year of eligibility remaining. They have not played together. They have a new head coach in a new setting and new offensive and defensive schemes. As for talent...discuss that as you will. I won't. There's just too much preseason hype for me to get into anything other than rough comparisons. Too many other things are vitally important. We all know about effort, ballers, athletes, how smart they are, turnovers, team play, coaching, defense, shooting, assists, rebounding, health, locker room issues, youth, depth, B10 physicality, road trips, scheduling, one more scholarship...) Pleased that this team will get some serious practice and games preseason. Still trying to get my arms around the portal and $$$$$$ being thrown around. The season keeps getting longer. Travel distances greater. Preseason and practices expanded this year. I'm going to enjoy warmer weather and there is no hurry to get to the fall and winter sports. *When's tipoff?

It's interesting how we all see things differently. I'm not saying you're necessarily wrong and HH or I am right. Who knows until it plays out. I agree with you that I was hoping we'd be able to add more proven pieces to the bench. I'm nervous we're going to have to rely on so many unproven pieces and and to varying degrees rely on 3 freshmen off the bench. We need another big and I also think another ball handler. I was hoping we'd be able to push Karvala and Manhertz down the depth chart with the last 2 additions. With all of that said, Nick Dorn is where we disagree. He was the returning player I wanted back least (outside of the two international guys from last year). I don't know what Harris will be, but I don't see how it can be worse than Dorn. Outside of his 3-game hot shooting streak, he was pretty awful. He's a terrible defender, doesn't handle or create offensively, really does very little outside very streaky spot-up shooting. Again, I have no idea what Harris will be, and can agree that I wonder what else we could have done with that NIL investment, but I don't see how Harris can be much worse than Dorn. Harris' ceiling is much higher IMO. Maybe Dorn will prove me wrong at Miami, but I wasn't too high on him last season.

I stand corrected. I might be thinking of some Kenpom numbers or something else someone posted. I generally find Torviks site pretty useful. Does anyone think we’ll have the 2nd most talented roster next year? Top 5?

Virginia pushes across a run in the bottom of the 8th to win 8-7 and we'll play Northern Kentucky at 5:30 today in an elimination game. We had just 5 hits but 3 were HR. Parker in the 1st, Goins in the 3rd and again in the 5th and Goins finished with 4 RBI. VA had 8 hits but we walked 8. Live Stats

With the state of Purdues NIL there’s no way they win a 5 star that a big boy actually wants. Feels like Lander for us

How did his index for this year play out? Was he on to something and can we have some reason for a better season

Just a note on how Illinois scored their 2 runs in the 10th: 2 walks and a hit batsman to load the bases with no outs. First run scored on a double play ground ball. Then a two-out wild pitch scored the second run. So Illinois scored 2 runs in the 10th without a hit or an RBI. Business as usual for IU.

This is interesting to see, but it has no relevance today. A coach today with IU resources can either identify and sign the right players or they can’t. Many can’t. I truly am pulling for DD because I do think he has it in him. This is a test of all tests and I hope he evolves and rises to the top.