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hoosierwhodey

Next Season/Offseason

By hoosierwhodey, in Indiana Hoosiers Football

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akhosrof    1,168

akhosrof
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Thanks for the info DJS.

I think as Hoosier fans we will realize how good we had it with Suds. The kid was a prodigy. He always had solid fundamentals, great pocket presence and an outstanding football intelligence. The kid was sharp and knew CKW's offense front to back, and it seemed the two had great in-game chemistry.

Lagow fits the profile of a Suds replacement: big, strong-armed QB. Lagow is even a better athlete. However, Lagow will have a steep learning curve to be comfortable with CKW's offense. We'll quickly see how smart Lagow is.

Where Lagow differs from Nate: Lagow has poor mechanics. He is a pure upper body thrower, so there might be accuracy issues. He has all the arm strength you could ask for, but he has a hitch where he moves the ball waist level on longer throws. Nate threw the sideline outs and back shoulder passes so beautifully as he had a consistent throwing motion. There are only a handful of NFL QBs that can make these types of throws with ease. I worry about B1G corners jumping Lagow's hitch, but Brett Favre had the same hitch and proved a strong arm can get away with things other QBs can't. Maybe if CKW gets Lagow using his lower body more there is no need for the hitch.

Lagow's pocket presence is nowhere near the level of Nate's. Yes, we had a great offensive line, but Nate did more than his part subtlety avoiding the pass rush. Where Lagow might have an advantage on Nate is Lagow throws an accurate deep ball. Nate has an awesome arm, but he sometimes lacked touch. There would either be too much air under the ball, or he'd launch it too far. Lagow seems to have an uncanny ability to put the ball in a place where the receiver can make a play. Cobbs should be in line for a spectacular year...

I agree with the sentiment that there will be a legitimate QB competition between Zander and Lagow. Zander has a big head start knowing the offense. Zander is a tireless worker, which should hopefully push Lagow as well. However, CKW's offense is not the same without a QB who can throw the deep out or the nearly unguardable back shoulder throw that Nate had down so well with Cobbs and Jones this season.

It would not surprise me to see Zander open, and maybe end the spring as the starter. Ultimately, I think what Lagow can provide the offense with his arm will make him the starter. Although I also wouldn't be surprised if Zander shows up another 10 pounds heavier and has a little more arm strength.

I cannot wait for spring!
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DChoosier    8,440

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There has to be major improvement on the defensive side. I think it may be expecting too much to think Lagow comes in and maintains the offense at such a high level.

I think Lagow is the key......by a mile.
I say that because with a decent QB the offense can be good next year with a good OL (especially if Feeney returns), experienced receivers and Redding is a good replacement for Howard.
Offense has to make it happen much like it was on the offense this year.

I agree with you that major improvement of the D would make a huge difference but I have little faith that the D will improve in a MAJOR way. Game 13 we still tackled poorly, bad angles, gave up big plays, left receivers incredibly wide open (luckily the Duke QB was not real accurate), 3rd and long is an adventure, we give up a ton of yards, etc etc. Nothing leads me to believe (I would love to be wrong)
that things will all the sudden change on D next year.
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Miller'sTheMan    1,652

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I think Lagow is the key......by a mile.
I say that because with a decent QB the offense can be good next year with a good OL (especially if Feeney returns), experienced receivers and Redding is a good replacement for Howard.
Offense has to make it happen much like it was on the offense this year.

I agree with you that major improvement of the D would make a huge difference but I have little faith that the D will improve in a MAJOR way. Game 13 we still tackled poorly, bad angles, gave up big plays, left receivers incredibly wide open (luckily the Duke QB was not real accurate), 3rd and long is an adventure, we give up a ton of yards, etc etc. Nothing leads me to believe (I would love to be wrong)
that things will all the sudden change on D next year.

For the most part I thought our D was somewhat decent on the front 7, but boy was our secondary a pile of garbage aside from Fant. Crawford was a true freshmen and it showed at times, but he has a lot of potential so hopefully he can improve and we need him to. The additions of Wesley Green and Jayme Thompson to the secondary should help infuse some pure talent into the team. 

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DChoosier    8,440

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Interesting that Tommy Stevens did not play when Hackenberg went down. Must be #3 on depth chart. Maybe not such a huge decommit after all...


He is a redshirt and McSorely was put in a few other times for "mop-up". That being said McSorley was a big time winner in HS, looked good today and might be more competition next year than Stevens expected.

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akhosrof    1,168

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Speaking of PSU, did anyone read Hackenberg's message declaring for the pro's? He thanked Bill O'Brien, the strength coach and nearly every offensive coach, but no mention of Franklin. He must have really not liked Franklin.

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Bobman1    2,909

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Man our receivers are stacked too. Patrick, Simmie, J-Shun, Hawkins, Jones, Paige, the frosh Morris (will he redshirt?). So many weapons.

Who was the freshman receiver that had a touchdown or two against Duke?

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djsalway    4,161

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Man our receivers are stacked too. Patrick, Simmie, J-Shun, Hawkins, Jones, Paige, the frosh Morris (will he redshirt?). So many weapons.

Morris should redshirt, but who knows with this staff since they don't redshirt very often.

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ThompsonHoosier    3,414

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Man our receivers are stacked too. Patrick, Simmie, J-Shun, Hawkins, Jones, Paige, the frosh Morris (will he redshirt?). So many weapons.


Also Leon Thornton and can't forget Dominique Booth who missed all of last season with a broken arm. We are seriously deep at WR!
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djsalway    4,161

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Also Leon Thornton and can't forget Dominique Booth who missed all of last season with a broken arm. We are seriously deep at WR!

It's looking like Leon is staying at DB because he has a better chance at seeing time and contributing there. Wouldn't be surprised if that changes throughout spring practice though.

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