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I agree with DD more than anyone.  It is the modern game.  We have to get a big.  I don't know if Crean will get us to where we want to be.  I disagree with a lot of things he does, but he has far more information than any of us could hope to have.  

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Good read but remember this though: No smart basketball analyst etc is going to go out and publicly rip Crean and say he can't coach. It's just bad juju and those types of things do not equate to having a long career.

There is a level if PC that they all have to uphold. On the flip side, none of them needed to say what they did, they could have just abstained

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“You can’t question whether or not he has the ability. The track record is too long and includes too much success.”

This was actually a really good read. I'm not very boisterous in my stance on the program. This statement sticks out to me the most. I love Tom Crean the person. Love everything he stands for, great guy I'm sure he is super nice, but I disagree with "too much success."

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“You can’t question whether or not he has the ability. The track record is too long and includes too much success.”

This was actually a really good read. I'm not very boisterous in my stance on the program. This statement sticks out to me the most. I love Tom Crean the person. Love everything he stands for, great guy I'm sure he is super nice, but I disagree with "too much success."


I see college basketball coaches for what they are. If you can stay in the game as long as Crean has, you are a good coach. There is so much More to winning games than being a coach.... The ability to stay EMPLOYED and take in cash these guys are is truly impressive. I respect anyone that can do that.

Let me put it this way, a coach can win a ton and get canned for doing thing the wrong way. A coach can lose a ton and get canned even if they are doing things the right way.

There is a balance between winning and doing things the right way (boosters, academics, charity events, likability etc). Tom Crean is PHENOMENAL and I mean WORLD CLASS at the later. He wins that side of the coaching spectrum which gives him more leeway on the winning side.

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Good read but remember this though: No smart basketball analyst etc is going to go out and publicly rip Crean and say he can't coach. It's just bad juju and those types of things do not equate to having a long career.

There is a level if PC that they all have to uphold. On the flip side, none of them needed to say what they did, they could have just abstained


There's no denying that! But so far I've yet to come across someone in the basketball world who believes he is in over his head. Most are generally impressed with what he's done in the wake.

Enjoyed these two statements in particular: “The fact that he got it done in four years, that he had them to the tournament in four years, is astonishing. The fact that in year five they were going to the second tournament appearance for Indiana and winning the Big Ten championship, I don’t think he’s ever been given proper credit or appreciation for that."

“It would be stupid [to fire Crean]. Crean should be the coach. There is not a chance that Indiana will or should even think about getting rid of Tom Crean. Among people who really understand basketball, it’s a silly discussion. With fans, you lose a game, and everyone should be fired; you win a game, and you’re the best coach ever.”

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The problem is that these are public responses from named coaches/guys in the business. They would be diplomatic no matter what they really thought.

I wish they would have asked 4 anonymous Division 1 coaches what they really thought about Tom Crean as a coach.

Maybe the answers would have been the same. Maybe not.

 

Were they forced to respond?  Were they forced to give in depth praise?  I get that it's their job but they don't have to respond to that.  Also, I believe DeCourcey has made some not so glowing comments about programs/coaches before.  Dakich the same.

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I see college basketball coaches for what they are. If you can stay in the game as long as Crean has, you are a good coach. There is so much More to winning games than being a coach.... The ability to stay EMPLOYED and take in cash these guys are is truly impressive. I respect anyone that can do that.

Let me put it this way, a coach can win a ton and get canned for doing thing the wrong way. A coach can lose a ton and get canned even if they are doing things the right way.

There is a balance between winning and doing things the right way (boosters, academics, charity events, likability etc). Tom Crean is PHENOMENAL and I mean WORLD CLASS at the later. He wins that side of the coaching spectrum which gives him more leeway on the winning side.

 

I see college basketball coaches for what they are. If you can stay in the game as long as Crean has, you are a good coach. There is so much More to winning games than being a coach.... The ability to stay EMPLOYED and take in cash these guys are is truly impressive. I respect anyone that can do that.

Let me put it this way, a coach can win a ton and get canned for doing thing the wrong way. A coach can lose a ton and get canned even if they are doing things the right way.

There is a balance between winning and doing things the right way (boosters, academics, charity events, likability etc). Tom Crean is PHENOMENAL and I mean WORLD CLASS at the later. He wins that side of the coaching spectrum which gives him more leeway on the winning side.

I'm much less likely to give Crean a pass on the winning games side now with the long list of off the court issues the program has dealt with over the last year or two.

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Good read. I'm not sure it does much to change my perspective, but some good points are made. I think its interesting that Dakich and Greenburg were praising Crean, maybe not too unexpected considering neither one was as successful as Crean within the same profession.

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