On a positive note...

[FKfootball 1,046]

My agenda is simple! We are freaking Indiana! Teams used to be scared to play us! Crean has turned us into the Kevin O'neil Northwestern teams.

[FKfootball 1,046]

Not trying to rain on everyones parade. But I cant assume I'm the only one disgusted right now.

[LazOffTheBench 3,638]

I'm disgusted but I'm keeping it to myself.

 

Go Hoosiers.

[CampHoosier 3,697]

Not trying to rain on everyones parade. But I cant assume I'm the only one disgusted right now.

 

We are all disgusted. We just express it in various ways

[Buck Naked 451]

My agenda is simple! We are freaking Indiana! Teams used to be scared to play us! Crean has turned us into the Kevin O'neil Northwestern teams.

Crean didn't turn us into anything. Myles Brand, IU Board of Trustees, Mike Davis, Rick Greenspan, Kelvin Samscum, Jeffrey Meyer had WAY more to do with that than Crean.

[CampHoosier 3,697]

Crean didn't turn us into anything. Myles Brand, IU Board of Trustees, Mike Davis, Rick Greenspan, Kelvin Samscum, Jeffrey Meyer had WAY more to do with that than Crean.

 

Mike Davis did the best he could with the situation he had. 

[Buck Naked 451]

Mike Davis did the best he could with the situation he had.

I totally agree, but in fairness, his recruiting did set IU back by basically ignoring the state of Indiana. Just look at the kids that left the state during his watch. If IU got half of those kids, he might still be coaching there today. Not to mention hurting relationships with AAU coaches.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Mike Davis did the best he could with the situation he had.

You can honestly say the same with Crean. And he had it much worse than a National Championship caliber team his first year lol.

[8bucks 6,483]

You can honestly say the same with Crean. And he had it much worse than a National Championship caliber team his first year lol.

I agree but I had hoped in year 7 Crean would have been way past what he inherited. He definitely got an A+ from me in years 1-4. Since then, since he built a new platform on guys like Zeller, Hulls, VO and Watford it seems to be slipping away.

Too young last year.
Too young this year.
Now we are talking about sending Troy and Stan away next year.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

I agree but I had hoped in year 7 Crean would have been way past what he inherited. He definitely got an A+ from me in years 1-4. Since then, since he built a new platform on guys like Zeller, Hulls, VO and Watford it seems to be slipping away.

Too young last year.
Too young this year.
Now we are talking about sending Troy and Stan away next year.

Yeah all valid points. I just don't like the pass other horrible coaches get when like the OP said, Crean is just one part of a systemic issue this program has had for about 15 years.

[8bucks 6,483]

Yeah all valid points. I just don't like the pass other horrible coaches get when like the OP said, Crean is just one part of a systemic issue this program has had for about 15 years.

I agree with the OP and thought we should be in the top 25 and playing very well at the end of the year. The lack of D disappoints though. Still even if we get that fixed we are not yet much better for next year unless we get a big that will start day 1.

So best case top 25 at end of this year and 2 wins in tourney.

No new recruits added we are probably top 20 most of the year but not likely to get too far in tourney the following year

Then year 3 yogi graduates and JBj goes pro and we are young again.

[GloryDays 5,923]

I agree with the OP and thought we should be in the top 25 and playing very well at the end of the year. The lack of D disappoints though. Still even if we get that fixed we are not yet much better for next year unless we get a big that will start day 1.

So best case top 25 at end of this year and 2 wins in tourney.

No new recruits added we are probably top 20 most of the year but not likely to get too far in tourney the following year

Then year 3 yogi graduates and JBj goes pro and we are young again.

 Better hope for the best of the best scenarios .

  Not to play Debbie Downer here but this thing could just as easily head south fast.We need to beat Gtown or this young team could lose confidence . They already have a problem with focus.

[LIHoosier 26,474]

My agenda is simple! We are freaking Indiana! Teams used to be scared to play us! Crean has turned us into the Kevin O'neil Northwestern teams.

Oh come on! At least every game isn't a 50-46 snorefest.

[JSHoosier 20,332]

Oh come on! At least every game isn't a 50-46 snorefest.

I don't care how fast the pace is, I want to see good fundamental basketball.  If a team can't play fast and do that, then they need to slow down.

[Alford Bailey 12,399]

Yea, strong backcourts can go a long way(see UCONN), BUT ,those type teams that are successful value the basketball and play good defense. We do neither.