IU vs Louisville Post Game Thread

[Uwe Robb 1,072]

Stupid. Except if the goal is actually to break the attendance record there is no reason for these two teams to do anything other than a home-and-home.

Explain? I think it would be good for program. We just played the most exciting game of the year on a neurtral court vs. Louisville. Kids being recruited care about these games. JBJ & Hanner seemed to be extra excited to play in this type of atmosphere. I do not see anything stupid about it. On top of that if the details are correct we would have 3/4 games in IN. Would I rather them just play in Bankers? Yeah, but trust me 17-18 yr old kids will think this is great. I am not saying that I want to recruit players that 1 and done, but for a guy coming in that knows he is one and done this could be a deciding factor for him to chose IU.

[AKHoosier 6,756]

Explain? I think it would be good for program. We just played the most exciting game of the year on a neurtral court vs. Louisville. Kids being recruited care about these games. JBJ & Hanner seemed to be extra excited to play in this type of atmosphere. I do not see anything stupid about it. On top of that if the details are correct we would have 3/4 games in IN. Would I rather them just play in Bankers? Yeah, but trust me 17-18 yr old kids will think this is great. I am not saying that I want to recruit players that 1 and done, but for a guy coming in that knows he is one and done this could be a deciding factor for him to chose IU.

 

It's the same thing we offered Kentucky and they turned it down.  I would love this.  We've been doing neutral site games for years, back to the Knight days.  I'd like to see a solid home-and-home with another program in there as well, but I like this plan.

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

It's the same thing we offered Kentucky and they turned it down.  I would love this.  We've been doing neutral site games for years, back to the Knight days.  I'd like to see a solid home-and-home with another program in there as well, but I like this plan.

 

I agree, 2 years of neutral court with a home-and-home is better than nothing. It's just not as good as a solid home-and-home.

 

Explain? I think it would be good for program. We just played the most exciting game of the year on a neurtral court vs. Louisville. Kids being recruited care about these games. JBJ & Hanner seemed to be extra excited to play in this type of atmosphere. I do not see anything stupid about it. On top of that if the details are correct we would have 3/4 games in IN. Would I rather them just play in Bankers? Yeah, but trust me 17-18 yr old kids will think this is great. I am not saying that I want to recruit players that 1 and done, but for a guy coming in that knows he is one and done this could be a deciding factor for him to chose IU.

A home and home means more to the kids and to the programs. Playing in Indy is a way to make sure students don't get to go to the game and robs them of a major game. Home games are huge. I don't think that neutral Courts are bad inherently, but they're worse than home courts. And during non-conference it's huge to get the opportunities to play against serious competition at home (whether you're L'Vile or us). Crap teams beg for neutral courts. Good teams play home and home.
 

Listen to any professional commentator about IUBB and I'd bet money they agree that a home-and-home is preferable to a neutral court game.

[Uwe Robb 1,072]

I agree, 2 years of neutral court with a home-and-home is better than nothing. It's just not as good as a solid home-and-home.

 

A home and home means more to the kids and to the programs. Playing in Indy is a way to make sure students don't get to go to the game and robs them of a major game. Home games are huge. I don't think that neutral Courts are bad inherently, but they're worse than home courts. And during non-conference it's huge to get the opportunities to play against serious competition at home (whether you're L'Vile or us). Crap teams beg for neutral courts. Good teams play home and home.
 

Listen to any professional commentator about IUBB and I'd bet money they agree that a home-and-home is preferable to a neutral court game.

I guess I see your point with the students. I have been out of school for about 15 yrs now and I am thinking like an old fuddy duddy. I was thinking in the terms of the same thing UK did to us though. If Lville would cancel whole series because they didn't get this format, then we lose a series with Lville and schedule another Savannah St or Grand Canyon. Are students nowadays willing to make that trade for an extra home game? I am not being sarcastic I am truly asking for some of you young bucks opinions? 

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

I guess I see your point with the students. I have been out of school for about 15 yrs now and I am thinking like an old fuddy duddy. I was thinking in the terms of the same thing UK did to us though. If Lville would cancel whole series because they didn't get this format, then we lose a series with Lville and schedule another Savannah St or Grand Canyon. Are students nowadays willing to make that trade for an extra home game? I am not being sarcastic I am truly asking for some of you young bucks opinions?

And I think most agree that Kentucky's decision to cancel the series was wrong. If you aren't ever willing to travel to your opponents home court and play then you aren't as good as you claim. The idea that Louisville or Indiana would be unwilling to do a home-and-home because they prefer a neutral court to their opponent's is mind-bottling. Same goes for Kentucky.

[bleedhoosier 3,627]

As a side note, just had a conversation with a Kentucky fan that called Crean and IU weak for not wanting to play Kentucky on a neutral court. I told short term memory loss is a whore because
1) we were more than happy to go to Rupp but Cal was trying to protect a home streak at the time
2)Crean came back and said ok let's do the neutral series and Cal said no (with nothing else scheduled in its place yet)
3)IU AD Fred glass offered UK 50k to play IU and Cal said no "because they already scheduled Providence"

Let's be honest, IU made Calipari look like a straight up punk.

[JSHoosier 19,890]

As a side note, just had a conversation with a Kentucky fan that called Crean and IU weak for not wanting to play Kentucky on a neutral court. I told short term memory loss is a ***** because
1) we were more than happy to go to Rupp but Cal was trying to protect a home streak at the time
2)Crean came back and said ok let's do the neutral series and Cal said no (with nothing else scheduled in its place yet)
3)IU AD Fred glass offered UK 50k to play IU and Cal said no "because they already scheduled Providence"

Let's be honest, IU made Calipari look like a straight up punk.

On number 2, we offered the same four year deal we just discussed with UL and UK declined because they didn't want to go more than 2.  Something about non-traditional programs can't schedule that far in advance.

 

We didn't just offer them neutral site deal.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

I agree with Martin. If the school wants to play neutral site for the recruiting/revenue benefits, fine. But if you're trying to schedule games with other premier, historic programs, you better want to take it to their house and invite them into yours. Where's the competitive spirit? Who doesn't want to try to beat us in Assembly Hall, or win in front of their fans? I'm fine with the 4 year mix plan, a home-and-home and 2 "neutral" site games played in 2 different locations.

[bleedhoosier 3,627]

On number 2, we offered the same four year deal we just discussed with UL and UK declined because they didn't want to go more than 2. Something about non-traditional programs can't schedule that far in advance.

We didn't just offer them neutral site deal.

Ah yes, I remember that now and thinking what a bs answer lol

[GloryDays 5,914]

I agree, 2 years of neutral court with a home-and-home is better than nothing. It's just not as good as a solid home-and-home.

 

A home and home means more to the kids and to the programs. Playing in Indy is a way to make sure students don't get to go to the game and robs them of a major game. Home games are huge. I don't think that neutral Courts are bad inherently, but they're worse than home courts. And during non-conference it's huge to get the opportunities to play against serious competition at home (whether you're L'Vile or us). Crap teams beg for neutral courts. Good teams play home and home.
 

 A neutral in Indy with a Louisville program that recruits this state relentlessly may  not be beneficial to us until we can put a better product on the floor.

They are miles ahead of us in national stature now and results like this years game in our backyard could have a negative effect when Indy recruits are in the stands.

At least with home and home we would have the crowd in our corner instead of a stadium  half full off rabid Card fans.

[rebelhoosier848891 9,588]

IU---UL is a good game to schedule regularly to help with recruiting---guarantee a national tv audience---and yes---to also stick it to UK! :yes: